IL2 and Sound Modding

[VT-51_Razor]

Has anyone considered the possibility that, as a result of the ability to fly such long awaited planes like the big bombers, or in my case the TBM, that 1:C may see a resurgence of sales of 1946? How many times over the past several years have we seen people post in the various forums, asking if this, or that plane were available to fly in this sim? I wonder if they might have passed on 1946 (or any of the previous versions) simply because their favorite plane was AI only? I wonder how many of those will be inclined to buy it now? There's no question that the game has been immensely improved by the sound mod. It's like a whole new game. The concerns of the un-modded about cheating seems to be misplaced as long as the public servers out there are able to exclude someone with a modded version. Yet, anyone can fly on a mod friendly server, and can do so at their own discretion. I don't see any conflict. Why all the animosity in here?

[Billfish]

Originally Posted by JG52Uther

Sorry Billfish I really don't understand what you mean by this.What 'leadership' role could we have taken?
AAA is not my site,and I have no sway there,same as urufu.

Well none of what I've said directed at individuals....however,

...meaning "that group" could have if having made an effort made themselves not only the focal point of all the modding communities, dictated what was acceptable and what wasn't, helped developed ways to prevent cheating, and even converted the community to a whole by simply being responsible.

Unfortunately, they have instead simply focussed on their own wants openly challenging any truth as to the matter if contrary to those wants........So a situation that simply grows worse yet ONLY in their hands to correct. It IS the responsibility for all to take a side, the "crack analogy" very true as......

If you fight it you encourage it to be driven from your community as unacceptable....
If you support it, use it, fight for it even if just for yourself then you are trying to make it acceptable in your community (as if no one uses it, no one would make it....)
If you do nothing, and do not take a stand, then as with all things it will be taken as you don't care, and therefor find it acceptable.

We all no matter how insignificant we may think we are, affect the communities we're part of for good or bad........We're all responsible for it like it or not.

Wait for it........

K2

[fly_zo]

hmmm... to mod or not to mod that is the question ! now ... i'm getting my 4.09 beta tomorrow ( cos 56k) from friend and after reading all those post with accusations and distrust why the hell i still have dilemma ? And i'm openly saying here : i know how to mod pretty much every part (aspect) of the game.

So Billfish if you are right then i'm troubling myself with no reason...

[RAF_Magpie]

What is done - is done. It cannot be undone.

So why keep moaning about it?

[BrassEm]

Still talking to the hand?

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by Urufu_Shinjiro

billfish, I've said my peace, I'm not responsible for your delusions, I wish everyone would just STFU and leave everyone else the hell alone.

Maybe if the modders had STFU about it and kept it in their own forums without coming in here boasting about it, you wouldn't now be so offended.

[JG27_brook]

Originally Posted by Chivas

Maybe if the modders had STFU about it and kept it in their own forums without coming in here boasting about it, you wouldn't now be so offended.

What the hackers even doing here just ban them

[VT-51_Razor]

Originally Posted by JG27_brook

What the hackers even doing here just ban them

Yeah! and next, we could start making a big pile of books, and have a nice bon fire too!!

[BSS_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Urufu_Shinjiro

Yes, josse does have a mod like that, and yes it has been mentioned on the AAA site, but it is a banned mod on AAA, it is against the AAA rules and will never be posted there. It was simply discussed.

And don't you dare compare the use of mods to being a crackhead. Yes I'm getting defensive, you would be too if it was you being accused of vile actions that you did not commit. All I do is fly B-17s and B-29s and such and me and everyone like me is being accused of all sorts of crap. I've said here and on other forums a bunch of times that I would put this back in the bottle if I could, but I cannot, so no one is going to "impose their will" on me and keep me from having fun while not hurting anyone. I have done NOTHING WRONG! If you guys want a level playing feild stop accusing and belittling others and come up with a solution your damn selves. I've tried and treid to come up with some sort of way to find a peaceful middle ground but I've finally realized that that will never happen as long as an insane few keep insisting we are doing wrong by minding our own damn business on our own damn pc's.

I wasn't calling you a crackhead. It was just an extreme way to get a point across. Also I know that most people over there aren't cheating or even inclined to do so. There are, however, discrepancies. Those mod's you said aren't over there, are over there and/or the site is openly giving the info on where to go get them. That is no different than just having it available there to DL.

The only thing I have a problem with now is that they already made 4.09 open to modding. If they cared anything about the community as a whole they would've just left it alone. I know what some will say, "oh, but someone would've anyway". Well, people will rob banks too and commit suicide.......

The one chance they had to regain any credibility they just blew right of the water by going right into 4.09, beta or not. It really shows the mentality.

[BSS_Sniper]

Originally Posted by RAF_Magpie

What is done - is done. It cannot be undone.

So why keep moaning about it?

From the guy that loves every mod at that site, FM, DM, WM modding, frankenplanes and disputes nothing, whatever it is, anything and everything goes. If thats all you have to contribute, why type anything?