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Old 02-24-2016, 09:17 AM
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Oh and remember my first scale drawing.......


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Old 02-24-2016, 10:26 AM
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This one......

I could probably build that from what I'm currently building.
These ones too were made of stone. In some cases they were reinforced with earth on the external wall, as the picture shows. There were plenty of these in Axis MTO airfields, mainly in Italy. They should be able to house a medium bomber like e.g. Ju88/He111/CantZ1007
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Old 02-24-2016, 10:43 AM
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These ones too were made of stone. In some cases they were reinforced with earth on the external wall, as the picture shows. There were plenty of these in Axis MTO airfields, mainly in Italy. They should be able to house a medium bomber like e.g. Ju88/He111/CantZ1007
Just a quick and dirty proof of concept based on the previous model, maybe this design as the default as it will use less polys......

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These ones too were made of stone. In some cases they were reinforced with earth on the external wall
Well thus far I've been designing the large type 3 "C" revetment around the 200 litre oil drum idea, but using a stone wall with rammed earth would be far easier to do and have other benefits like.....

1. Use far less polys

2. Be easier to skin

3. By changing the skin (grass, wood, concrete, etc) the same revetment could be used in other theaters

4. In the end can be made to look overall more realistic at all viewing distances including from inside the cockpit due to less reliance on circular features (IMO)

So I'd probably prefer to go in that direction, sticking to stone/cement for the larger revetment and then instead using the oil drum method to build the smaller type 1 "square walled" revetment which again with different skinning could be re-utilised in multiple theaters?

So what's your opinion?

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There were plenty of these in Axis MTO airfields, mainly in Italy. They should be able to house a medium bomber like e.g. Ju88/He111/CantZ1007
Here's the current revised 200 litre oil drum revetment, using basically the existing dimensions of the original design but with a hexagonal internal wall, as you can see still fits a Ju88 or a He111 comfortably.

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Old 02-25-2016, 02:32 AM
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Here's a stone one I threw together.....





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Old 02-25-2016, 05:36 AM
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I Google'd Castelvetrano airfield, Sicily and found this image of the large type 2 Y shaped a revetment located Trapani-Milo.



So I decided to do a little aerial reconnaissance and found.....





From these remains I should be able to work out the dimensions and wall thickness for this type of revetment, from the start these pens seem more Y shaped than the the photo interpreters drawing key.

All around the boundaries of the airfield there are numerous piles of scattered rocks, and the odd depression, no doubt remnants of other demolished revetments.

Here's the google map reference, if you want to have a poke around for yourselves:

https://www.google.com.au/maps/place...a8c28bc2deb252
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Old 02-25-2016, 06:06 AM
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looks like some part missing ...
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Old 02-25-2016, 06:18 AM
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G'day Sita

The first google map images is the same pen as that in the ground level image.

It is mostly intact and there is enough of the foot print left to work it, there is obviously a rear entrance as seen in the ground photo that splits the revetment into two halves.
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Old 02-25-2016, 07:21 AM
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Good finding Spud. The scheme I posted of the "Y" revetment was made indeed from Castelvetrano. It is a post-Husky survey plan made 'on the field' by Aviation Engineers so I would take those dimensions as correct. Nice job in the "C" type!
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Nice job in the "C" type!

about C-type ... i still didn't find any photo evidence in internet about that thing and about using fuel barrels in it ... so i have some doubts ...
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