Post links to 'cheating using the soundmod' tracks here:

[JG52Uther]

Yep been around il2 for 7 seven years now.Even spoken to Oleg and Luthier personally about things that cannot be talked about in a public forum.
I don't really see the problem here.People have said they have proof of cheating online with the soundmod,all I am asking is for you then to post that proof here for everyone to see.You will then becomne a hero to your cause,and be forever loved and immortalised.
you say you have proof.
Show us that proof.
Or do you really have no proof,were lying all along,just stirring up trouble,and are preparing your apology as I type this.

[jasonbirder]

a game you mod illegaly

Surely you mean a game you mod [i]potentially/i] illegally in non-US and non-Western European jurisdictions even though that has never been tested in the courts and there is no relevent case law precedent to refer to...

[kristorf]

Originally Posted by carguy_

Freedom of expression is a little different at forums which have a game you mod illegaly for the main topic.It would be nice if all of you mod supporters just stopped promoting hacks.That would be fine.

Who says I am promoting, just expressing my opinion, not illegal is it??
Get of your high horse please

[zapatista]

eh the cheating hack users arnt even smart enough to use google to find some evidence of cheating ? why doesnt that surprise me !

here, just from a 30 sec search:

1) the classic example of the pilot hopping out of the plane, running around, and getting back into the plane

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffIuFecRHSk

2) il2 modding 101, note that at the start of the clip he goes into multiplayer, and in some of the later clips there are text msg's from other online users like "WTF ?" you can also see the icons of the other users, and he is getting shot at
it includes a vertical takeoff for a do-335 from a carrier, controlling AI planes that arnt flyable, endless vertical powerclimb in a zero etc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA2BiRAPqY8

3) flyable Fi156 Storch with p39 cockpit, using sound mod

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg4JEf8nQg8

4) new 6DOF mod version for track IR with sound mod

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxYyq...eature=related

err anybody claiming adding 6DoF isnt cheating compared to what other users have available in visibility ?

5) 6dof-Ta183 with partially transparant rear cockpit, significantly increasing view from cockpit compared to other users.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6ieD...eature=related

etc.. lots of them available

my point is still the same, why dont you hack kiddies try and prove there is no online cheating going on, and that using a simple sound mod still completely locks and protects the rest of the file specs, like aircraft behaviour, cockpit visibility, and enemy lod model visibility etc ?

[stalkervision]

Originally Posted by zapatista

eh the cheating hack users arnt even smart enough to use google to find some evidence of cheating ? why doesnt that surprise me !

here, just from a 30 sec search:
1) the classic example of the pilot hopping out of the plane, running around, and getting back into the plane

2) il2 modding 101, note that at the start of the clip he goes into multiplayer, and in some of the later clips there are text msg's from other online users like "WTF ?" you can also see the icons of the other users, and he is getting shot at
it includes a vertical takeoff for a do-335 from a carrier, controlling AI planes that arnt flyable, endless vertical powerclimb in a zero etc

3) flyable Fi156 Storch with p39 cockpit, using sound mod

4) new 6DOF mod version for track IR with sound mod

err anybody claiming adding 6DoF isnt cheating compared to what other users have available in visibility ?

5) 6dof-Ta183 with partially transparant rear cockpit, significantly increasing view from cockpit compared to other users.

etc.. lots of them available

my point is still the same, why dont you hack kiddies try and prove there is no online cheating going on, and that using a simple sound mod still completely locks and protects the rest of the file specs, like aircraft behaviour, cockpit visibility, and enemy lod model visibility etc ?

You do know not one of these is apparently on-line play?

Proof there isn't cheating? Why not you try proving there is ?

[stalkervision]

here is some proof I just posted recently..

I found this bit of counter evidence for you from another forum by "Quazi" a mod over at Ubi..


"And just FYI? I have asked every online m8 I know that I fly with from time to time (and there are shit pot full) as often as I see them, if they are seeing any weirdness online and so far they haven't. The only thing a very good m8 of mine has noticed is that the K\D ratio between the Hellcat & Zero on Zekes vs. Wildcats has been 1:1 for many, many moons. Now it is at 2:1 in favor of the Hellcat. Of course this isn't really saying anything as far as confirming someone is cheating online with tweaked FM's\DM's. It is just something he has noticed.

[JG52Uther]

Posting old youtube videos showing what 'can' be done,does not prove what 'is' being done,online,in the servers you are playing on.This is what I ask for in this thread..Please if its hard for you to understand what I am asking ,tell me what language you speak and I will translate that for you.
Again,where is YOUR track showing the cheating you say you have seen that has totally ruined your online play and made your life not worth living.

[CKY_86]

Originally Posted by zapatista

eh the cheating hack users arnt even smart enough to use google to find some evidence of cheating ? why doesnt that surprise me !

As I said yesterday, we are not asking anyone else. We are asking here for proof from the people who claim they have seen cheating online using the sound mod.

Originally Posted by zapatista

here, just from a 30 sec search:
1) the classic example of the pilot hopping out of the plane, running around, and getting back into the plane

2) il2 modding 101, note that at the start of the clip he goes into multiplayer, and in some of the later clips there are text msg's from other online users like "WTF ?" you can also see the icons of the other users, and he is getting shot at
it includes a vertical takeoff for a do-335 from a carrier, controlling AI planes that arnt flyable, endless vertical powerclimb in a zero etc

Both of these videos came around long before the sound mod and people have been doing this sort of stuff before the sound mod came out.

Originally Posted by zapatista

3) flyable Fi156 Storch with p39 cockpit, using sound mod

And the posting of this video is ment to proove online cheating how?

Originally Posted by zapatista

4) new 6DOF mod version for track IR with sound mod

err anybody claiming adding 6DoF isnt cheating compared to what other users have available in visibility ?

5) 6dof-Ta183 with partially transparant rear cockpit, significantly increasing view from cockpit compared to other users.

Again, these videos came around before the sound mod did. Plus this 6dof mod can be worked with just track ir software alone I belive. Only when the sound mod came out was a version of the mod made to work with the sound mod, to make it easier to install. But yeah, ill give you that, but what about when poeple started using track ir online? where they cheats because they had an increased view?

Originally Posted by zapatista

etc.. lots of them available

my point is still the same, why dont you hack kiddies try and prove there is no online cheating going on, and that using a simple sound mod still completely locks and protects the rest of the file specs, like aircraft behaviour, cockpit visibility, and enemy lod model visibility etc ?

All the sound mod does is change a few sounds an make some ai aircraft flyable.

''why dont you hack kiddies try and prove there is no online cheating going on'' We are not the ones making accusations of cheating online & where I come from if you make an accusation you need proof to back it up.

[Billfish]

12.12.07

Originally Posted by Evgeny

The last warning, guys. If someone continues promoting hacking, insulting each other, using obscene language or post extremely off-topic threads, the punishment will come immediately. I think no one wants to be banned. Such measures are entirely for your own good. This forum isn't going to turn into a zoo, this forum was created for honorable people, who respect themselves and each other. I think all of you are such people. So prove it and the only result will be happiness and good warm atmosphere on the forum.

[kristorf]

This is what I have been trying to say without shouting out, lets move on please and close ALL threads relating to this topic

(I doubt this will happen due to some peoples inability to move forward, be them 'purists' or other)