Friday 2010-07-09 Dev. update and Discussion Thread

[rookie_and_noggie]

I hope trees are not final yet. They spoil the terrain to me

[Hatch]

Originally Posted by choctaw111

Oleg, are the atmospheric conditions being done in 1940 standards?
What I mean to say is that there was a lot less air pollution back then.
I also wanted to say that so many elements are being so well done are really coming together to make something unprecedented and truly extraordinary

London at least was know for it's smog.
Don't know too much about wartime years but air quality now might even be better than it was in the past.

Anyone have any idea?

[13th Hsqn Protos]

:/

Whats with the overly saturated greens and browns again in the third set ......

2010 and still screenshots have no AA

After this game gets launched and you reload bank accounts, you guys need to buy all new MODERN rigs with 24' widescreen monitors .....

A good high res movie 720/1080 is in order at this point.

[steeldelete]

one of these days we'll be able to fly to the moon! Mark my words.

Very beautiful!

[choctaw111]

Originally Posted by brando

"...a lot less air pollution back then."

I'm sure that's not correct.
The first half of the twentieth century was all coal-fired - industry, transport, domestic - everything came from the burning of massive amounts of coal. Electricity was generated by coal burning power-stations, and 'house' gas was a by-product of coke production. (no, not that type of coke! ) Just the daily burning of coal in houses in , say, London created an incredible amount of air pollution. In certain atmospheric conditions London was subjected to heavy 'smog' (literally, smoke and fog) which caused a large number of deaths every year, leading eventually to the Clean Air Act which outlawed the use of coal in London. That came two decades after 1940 however, and the pollution of the time was increased by the need to produce more power, use more trains, and run more factories when war broke out.
The atmosphere over Britain was thick with the carbon particles that coal-burning churns out.

B

That is very interesting.
What about the overall pollution over rural areas? Would this have been worse back then as well?
I am only asking as I have seen photos of mountain ranges (in the US) from the 1940's and compared them to the same view today.
The view from 70 years ago is much more clear.

[proton45]

Originally Posted by 13th Hsqn Protos

:/

Whats with the overly saturated greens and browns again in the third set ......

2010 and still screenshots have no AA

After this game gets launched and you reload bank accounts, you guys need to buy all new MODERN rigs with 24' widescreen monitors .....

A good high res movie 720/1080 is in order at this point.

Oh, Protos...you are such a "card", you shuffle when you walk and you need to be dealt with (lol).

[Il2Pongo]

Originally Posted by choctaw111

That is very interesting.
What about the overall pollution over rural areas? Would this have been worse back then as well?
I am only asking as I have seen photos of mountain ranges (in the US) from the 1940's and compared them to the same view today.
The view from 70 years ago is much more clear.

You realize that the rocky mountains of the US were pretty much deserted at that time vs the south of england right? Your using an example of one of the(at that time) least industrialized areas of the world with one of the most industrialized areas of the world.

"London


Victorian London was notorious for its thick smogs, or "pea-soupers", a fact that is often recreated to add an air of mystery to a period costume drama
In 1306, concerns over air pollution were sufficient for Edward I to (briefly) ban coal fires in London.[11] In 1661, John Evelyn's Fumifugium suggested burning fragrant wood instead of mineral coal, which he believed would reduce coughing. The Ballad of Gresham College the same year describes how the smoke "does our lungs and spirits choke, Our hanging spoil, and rust our iron."
Severe episodes of smog continued in the 19th and 20th centuries and were nicknamed "pea-soupers". The Great Smog of 1952 darkened the streets of London and killed approximately 4,000 people in the short time of 4 days (a further 8,000[12] died from its effects in the following weeks and months). Initially a flu epidemic was blamed for the loss of life. "

[krz9000]

guys remember, colorgrading should be done as a post fx. im pretty sure oleg has lots of possibilities to desaturate and colorkey the final output. add motionblur, dof, vignetting, maybe some film-grain and you magically get a very convincing looking picture for not that much graphic power nowadays.

[furbs]

is the gunner slumped over in the last shot?

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox

The size of the map could be unlimited (sphere) but with small amount of detail and decreased resolution.

So will be limited map.

As I told in the past there will be no Norway or Berlin.

Ok, I move in vacation right now. Sorry.

This is the most interesting news yet. Unlimited map (sphere) suggests a world map, with only the BOB area being modeled in detail in the first addition of the series. Also saying that there will be no Norway or Berlin modeled brings hope that Paris will.

This unlimited sphere map bodes well for future addons that included bomb raids to Berlin etc. Hopefully computers will be strong enough then to have such large detailed maps. FSX does have a world map but photo scenery looks ok at high level but sucks big time at low level.

I find the current state of the terrain scenery is good, but still needs work to make it photo realistic. Although maybe all thats needed is more varieties of trees, and hedgerows, more realistic color palette, and higher resolution. Yes I know its still a WIP.