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Old 11-23-2009, 05:38 PM
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Do they make a left-handed version?

Does anyone mod this kit to fit leftys yet?

If not, I'll stick with my tried and true 6 year old HOTAS. Everyone knows I'm a CH diehard. I am so because I've tried everything available and always came back to CH for various reasons. I had a Cougar, Saitek X36 and X45 (sorry, after those two, I couldn't bring myself to try an X52), MSFF2 (I actually had two of these) and several CH sticks. Even my first CH Flightstick (the old two button version!) still works on an older pc that still has a gameport.

No, I love my controllers as much because I'm used to them as because they're functional and precise everytime I use them.

When I saw Logitech was putting this product out, I really, really wanted for it to be great stuff. Hell, maybe it is I don't know myself yet. I DO know many of my friends can't plunk down the $700 to get the same setup I use and I would love to be able to recommend a very good alternative. Maybe the Logitech is it. I simply can't, in clear conscience, do that right now thanks to their crap track record on durability and customer service.

There are things that I like and things I don't like about my own controllers and there are things I like and don't like about the Logitech kit based on reviews, but it still looks better than anything Saitek offers (albeit with an accompanying price point).

If you have it and like it, great. I really am happy for you. I hope it holds up (looks like it should) and will be interested in hearing the myriad reviews this time next year...while I'm still flying with my then 7 year old controllers.


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Old 11-23-2009, 07:06 PM
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They don't build planes for lefties either




sorry, couldn't help it!
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Old 11-23-2009, 07:47 PM
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They don't build planes for lefties either




sorry, couldn't help it!
but then, we're not actually flying planes, are we? Unless they've been keeping the issue of mice and keyboards to WW2 pilots a secret for all these years! LOL, let's have a new conspiracy theory to enliven this thread.
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Old 11-23-2009, 07:59 PM
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I'm left-handed, and I don't have any problem at all with joystick.

Thing is, I learned to do it with the right hand (same for gutar, but this is totally OT ) It's just more practical, anyway.

And, as they said, ever say an aircraft made for left handed ?
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Old 11-24-2009, 02:12 AM
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I ordered the G940 today and should see it by the end of the week. I did it with some trepidation, after reading both good and bad comments, but realize one man's junk is another man's treasure. I've bought almost every other joystick made and the only one I use is the MSFF2 joystick, but I'm tired off making it work with each new OS I install.

Currently using
MSFF2 joystick (very precise and adjustable spring tension)
Cougar Throttle (by far the best on the market)
Saitek Pro Rudders (toe breaks are great)

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Ch Fighter Stick (solid stick, but its slightly clunky gimbals, made it not quite as accurate as others)
Saitek Aviator (precise with smooth gimbals)
Cougar Joystick (very clunky gimbals, good for bomber pilots only) unless modded
Simped rudder pedals (solid product)

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X52 (deadzone made it unusable if your used to hitting what you shoot at)
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Old 11-24-2009, 05:56 AM
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Hi,
had the G940 for som edays now and I'm overall very pleased with the quality and operation.
There is one gripe though and it's not the stick . The forces in IL-2 is not very good and I have problems adjusting the stick to them.

However as there is a lot of new HOTAS hardware in the making I trust that future sims will have a better implementation of forces built in to the game.

If anyone has modded forces please PM me and we'll have a chat about it

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Old 11-24-2009, 06:23 AM
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If anyone has modded forces please PM me and we'll have a chat about it
Have you tried the user-made .eff files on Mission4today, HaJa? I'm intending to get the G940 myself to replace my dying 5-year-old X45, and I'm curious as to whether they produce any improvement. I've looked at them in Microsoft's fedit program and one of them does seem to have a different spring effect with friction modeled that might reduce the weedy forces near the centre.
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Old 11-24-2009, 11:08 AM
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Will have a try on those
Yes to complete lack of speed induced higher forces produce a terrible mushy center and it is a major drawback.

Will let you know as soon as I've tried.

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Old 11-24-2009, 11:37 AM
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Tried both forces and it's better but not to my liking
However the manin culprit here is the G940 drivers which doesn't allow for forces passing over
the center. This mean that there is no forces in the center of the stick and for me this is a big con but also the only con I've found.

It means that you will not have the realistic heavy motion when the speed picks up in the center part och motion but instead a limp feel. I think they've done this to protect the stick but I would like them to narrow the froce "deadzone".

And don't confuse this with a normal deadzone with no input because this stick hasn't got a deadzone. It register every minute input
But that is for me also a problem when the forces isn't availiable in the center.

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hope I made sence here
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Old 11-24-2009, 12:05 PM
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hope I made sence here
Aye, perfect sense.
I've looked at most of the force feedback files in fedit, the Microsoft force editor program that opens the .eff files, and there's only one of the files on mission4today that changes spring.eff, which I guess is the centering force, to add an inertia effect...I wonder whether adding a friction effect would allow there to be at least some basic feel of mechanical resistance in the force feedback around the centre? I'd love to try it out, but I don't have an FFB stick at uni, I'm afraid.
It's not going to put me off getting the G940, to be honest, because the feel around the centre will still be better than my X45, but I'm just wondering whether it can be fixed in these .eff files or not. The major problem, I think, is just that the sim uses these simple .eff files designed purely to work with old Microsoft controllers and no others.
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