Arado 234, B-17, P-47 in Strike

[PantherAttack2]

Originally Posted by MorgothNL

the nuke would be the pacific theater , and thats not in this game.

Anyways, if every one has the B-17, there is no need to take another bomber (except for the arado).
But if not every one has it, it isnt fair..

I dont see a real way of this working out

The only way to work it out would be to have certain bomber/ fighter slots in Strike as was mentioned before...

(if everyone used Arado's or B-17's) It would limit the amount of those bombers and force the remaining players to use fighters.

But I wouldn't expect anything to be done about it anyways...

[Ancient Seraph]

I was hoping no one would notice that, but well, nothing gets passed you guys. Anyways, apart from that, I bet they wouldn't add it in a Pacific theater either, since it ruins the game balance, just like the jets. As I said (maybe in another post ) if there's an Arado in game, someone else has to grab a jet, then another finds it wouldn't be fun in his Spit, etc. etc. and finally you end up with a WWII Ace Combat wannabe.

[PantherAttack2]

Originally Posted by Ancient Seraph

...if there's an Arado in game, someone else has to grab a jet, then another finds it wouldn't be fun in his Spit, etc. etc. and finally you end up with a WWII Ace Combat wannabe.

Logically reasoning leads to that conclusion, but many people still use a variety of aircraft if there is an Arado or B-17 in a match, or even if they have the Arado unlocked. One thing that is a problem about teams:

-Player A has an Arado and his team will be chosen randomly
-Player B decides to use an Me-262 to fight the Arado
-Player B's team will be chosen randomly
-Player A and B end up on the same team

OR

-Player A has an Arado and his team is set to A
-Player B, C, D, F, and G set their team to A
-Remaining players (H, I, J, and K) are put on team B


On the second example (particularly when Player A has a B-17 and not an Arado) players just join the team which has the best bomber. But, going back to the first example, if the best bomber's team is chosen randomly, and there are other bombers (possible an Arado or two), then there is still a good chance that one team will have all the good bombers, the other team fighters/medium bombers.

[juz1]

Unashamed Arado user...I want the B17...Arado = probable win

If you don't like the arado, set a date limit on the game...

two spit users teamed up and took me out on a dive run...Good work fellas...a good pilot can take out the ardo in a decent prop plane...

as for points for fighter kills in strike, Hell YEAH! Makes for interesting games!

ps got my first kill in the arado...someone had landed a yak on strike(?)...seemed rude not to bomb him.

pps making certain unlocks easier would help alot us time-strapped adults!!

Good to see everyone on last night...good times!(15kill dogfight win) and bad (getting downed 15 times for 6 kills...)

love this game...awesome variety...see you all soon
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Weed vaporizers

[dazz1971]

Originally Posted by Ancient Seraph

whereas the Agado can only be taken down with other jets, which leads to games where only jets will be used. Not my idea of a nice IL2 game.

I dont think it would you would only need one jet to counter it i mean if your team talk to each other i could go something like this our jet pilot mission is to take down that jet bomber the other fighters spits etc your mission is to escort our bomber to the target area and troll for kills ... i think that would make for a good balanced game also the guy who is flying the jet fighter has a mission to take down that bomber that to me would be fun

i mean when the nazis rolled out the me 262 fighter did all the b17 bombers refuse to fight the war becuse the jets could out perform them ?? nope they adapted there tactics and fought back players in this game should do the same
adapt your tatics explote sp. the planes weakness and use it against them

[Ancient Seraph]

Originally Posted by PantherAttack2

Logically reasoning leads to that conclusion, but many people still use a variety of aircraft if there is an Arado or B-17 in a match, or even if they have the Arado unlocked. One thing that is a problem about teams:

-Player A has an Arado and his team will be chosen randomly
-Player B decides to use an Me-262 to fight the Arado
-Player B's team will be chosen randomly
-Player A and B end up on the same team

OR

-Player A has an Arado and his team is set to A
-Player B, C, D, F, and G set their team to A
-Remaining players (H, I, J, and K) are put on team B


On the second example (particularly when Player A has a B-17 and not an Arado) players just join the team which has the best bomber. But, going back to the first example, if the best bomber's team is chosen randomly, and there are other bombers (possible an Arado or two), then there is still a good chance that one team will have all the good bombers, the other team fighters/medium bombers.

A good reason why people should always choose teams on strike, and adapt to eachother's choices of planes. I myself like to bomb, but if there's too many bombers on my team I don't mind flying a fighter.
As for the jet that should counter the Arado, this will just exclude those two players from the rest of the game.
And please stop with the arguments of, in real life they would adapt blabla, in all fairness, this is still a game, and balancing is a major factor. If a game is unbalanced, however realistic it may be, it stops being fun quite quickly.

[dazz1971]

Originally Posted by Ancient Seraph

As for the jet that should counter the Arado, this will just exclude those two players from the rest of the game.

really ?? one is trying to bomb the enemy targets and the other is trying to stop him pretty much what strike is all about id say ??

[Lexandro]

Originally Posted by dazz1971

really ?? one is trying to bomb the enemy targets and the other is trying to stop him pretty much what strike is all about id say ??

Not really, it means that two players are flying all over the map at speed basicaly rulling them out for teamwork. Its much better in Strike to play as a team and fly as a flight rather than a bunch of lone wolf players.

[dazz1971]

Originally Posted by Lexandro

Not really, it means that two players are flying all over the map at speed basicaly rulling them out for teamwork. Its much better in Strike to play as a team and fly as a flight rather than a bunch of lone wolf players.

I Agree it is much better to play as a team but it rarely happens yesterday i was in a few stike games using a he 111 all the fighters took off trolling for kills so i was trying to bomb targets without fighter escort at the mercy of my ai gunners other team having b17 depleted all our tickets before i even got a decent line on the target now if id have used the arado i would of least managed to get a few bombs on target

start game fly near to target get shot down on account of no fighter support rinse and repeat = not fun

[Raw Kryptonite]

Yeah, it's better to play as a team, but so few people do that. I've been in some great rooms where people would do that, but for the most part each team is made up of individuals doing their own thing. Maybe they're in a party with another person, but in most cases I doubt it. People 90% of the time don't say a word or acknowledge you if you ask if anyone has comms. It's just as rare for the team to set up well with aircraft. I pretty much always have a bomber, not just because I want the B-17, but because usually no one else runs one, except for the 2 B-17's on the other team. LOL