Arado 234, B-17, P-47 in Strike

[Ancient Seraph]

Originally Posted by dazz1971

if someone one the other team is using the jet bomber why not use the
he-162a2
afterall that was what the germans were designing it for fast bomber intercepter ??
a few times during strike games i have been told NO jets but the other team have b17 and can end all your teams tickets in a very short time if you dont have a b17 on your team how you supposed to stand a chance ???

also what has put me off strike games is that most of the time the guys on my team all went fighters and soon as the games started they all fly off to grab as kill im then left on my own as the only bomber by the time i get to the targets (if i make it that far) the other teams fighters are buzzing me and 9 times out of 10 i dont even get to drop payload before spiraling to earth in a ball of flames

for me the arado is a valid choice for strike if not then whats the purpose of having it in the game i mean its not like anyone is going to choose it fo a dog fight

About the B17's: true. They're overpowered, and I hope they're a bit more accessible when the patch comes which enables SP unlocks. The B17 however can still be taken down decently, despite it's gunners, whereas the Agado can only be taken down with other jets, which leads to games where only jets will be used. Not my idea of a nice IL2 game. I have no idea why the designers added the jets, since they're in a whole other category from the piston planes. If I wanna fly jets I'll play Ace Combat. Somehow though, people fail to understand how jets are extremely game-deteriorating.

[PantherAttack2]

Originally Posted by Ancient Seraph

I have no idea why the designers added the jets, since they're in a whole other category from the piston planes.

Because jets were used in late WW2, that's why.

[Ancient Seraph]

So was the nuclear bomb, they didn't add that. And the nukes also actually played a significant role in the war, unlike the jets.

[PantherAttack2]

Originally Posted by Ancient Seraph

So was the nuclear bomb, they didn't add that. And the nukes also actually played a significant role in the war, unlike the jets.

Well, as far as I know, the only nuclear bomb dropped was in Japan, so why would they add that?

[MorgothNL]

Originally Posted by Ancient Seraph

So was the nuclear bomb, they didn't add that. And the nukes also actually played a significant role in the war, unlike the jets.

the nuke would be the pacific theater , and thats not in this game.

Anyways, if every one has the B-17, there is no need to take another bomber (except for the arado).
But if not every one has it, it isnt fair..

I dont see a real way of this working out

[PantherAttack2]

Originally Posted by MorgothNL

the nuke would be the pacific theater , and thats not in this game.

Anyways, if every one has the B-17, there is no need to take another bomber (except for the arado).
But if not every one has it, it isnt fair..

I dont see a real way of this working out

The only way to work it out would be to have certain bomber/ fighter slots in Strike as was mentioned before...

(if everyone used Arado's or B-17's) It would limit the amount of those bombers and force the remaining players to use fighters.

But I wouldn't expect anything to be done about it anyways...

[Ancient Seraph]

I was hoping no one would notice that, but well, nothing gets passed you guys. Anyways, apart from that, I bet they wouldn't add it in a Pacific theater either, since it ruins the game balance, just like the jets. As I said (maybe in another post ) if there's an Arado in game, someone else has to grab a jet, then another finds it wouldn't be fun in his Spit, etc. etc. and finally you end up with a WWII Ace Combat wannabe.

[PantherAttack2]

Originally Posted by Ancient Seraph

...if there's an Arado in game, someone else has to grab a jet, then another finds it wouldn't be fun in his Spit, etc. etc. and finally you end up with a WWII Ace Combat wannabe.

Logically reasoning leads to that conclusion, but many people still use a variety of aircraft if there is an Arado or B-17 in a match, or even if they have the Arado unlocked. One thing that is a problem about teams:

-Player A has an Arado and his team will be chosen randomly
-Player B decides to use an Me-262 to fight the Arado
-Player B's team will be chosen randomly
-Player A and B end up on the same team

OR

-Player A has an Arado and his team is set to A
-Player B, C, D, F, and G set their team to A
-Remaining players (H, I, J, and K) are put on team B


On the second example (particularly when Player A has a B-17 and not an Arado) players just join the team which has the best bomber. But, going back to the first example, if the best bomber's team is chosen randomly, and there are other bombers (possible an Arado or two), then there is still a good chance that one team will have all the good bombers, the other team fighters/medium bombers.

[juz1]

Unashamed Arado user...I want the B17...Arado = probable win

If you don't like the arado, set a date limit on the game...

two spit users teamed up and took me out on a dive run...Good work fellas...a good pilot can take out the ardo in a decent prop plane...

as for points for fighter kills in strike, Hell YEAH! Makes for interesting games!

ps got my first kill in the arado...someone had landed a yak on strike(?)...seemed rude not to bomb him.

pps making certain unlocks easier would help alot us time-strapped adults!!

Good to see everyone on last night...good times!(15kill dogfight win) and bad (getting downed 15 times for 6 kills...)

love this game...awesome variety...see you all soon
________
Weed vaporizers

[Ancient Seraph]

Originally Posted by PantherAttack2

Logically reasoning leads to that conclusion, but many people still use a variety of aircraft if there is an Arado or B-17 in a match, or even if they have the Arado unlocked. One thing that is a problem about teams:

-Player A has an Arado and his team will be chosen randomly
-Player B decides to use an Me-262 to fight the Arado
-Player B's team will be chosen randomly
-Player A and B end up on the same team

OR

-Player A has an Arado and his team is set to A
-Player B, C, D, F, and G set their team to A
-Remaining players (H, I, J, and K) are put on team B


On the second example (particularly when Player A has a B-17 and not an Arado) players just join the team which has the best bomber. But, going back to the first example, if the best bomber's team is chosen randomly, and there are other bombers (possible an Arado or two), then there is still a good chance that one team will have all the good bombers, the other team fighters/medium bombers.

A good reason why people should always choose teams on strike, and adapt to eachother's choices of planes. I myself like to bomb, but if there's too many bombers on my team I don't mind flying a fighter.
As for the jet that should counter the Arado, this will just exclude those two players from the rest of the game.
And please stop with the arguments of, in real life they would adapt blabla, in all fairness, this is still a game, and balancing is a major factor. If a game is unbalanced, however realistic it may be, it stops being fun quite quickly.