IL2 and Sound Modding

[stalkervision]

Maybe Ivan won't be so crazy now.. Now we'll have to call him "Non-Crazy Ivan"

[SlipBall]

Rumor has it, that Evgeny hand picked Ivan to play the bad cop role, in a dynamic duo mod team on these boards

[JG52Uther]

Ivan did a good job on the ubi boards,but I doubt Evgeny needs any help here.He seems to have things under control.

[SlipBall]

No its true....Oleg gave the order......Get stalker! lol

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by stalkervision

Did I ever say he wasn't still making money from it junior...? If anything he is making MORE now because the mods are making it more worthy to own and not less with lots more features.

what a nut-bag.. You know with people like you around I am glad the game has evolved just to piss your little neanderthal brain right off..

you been sniffing to much glue it seems. are you now claiming there is increased sales of 1946 because some bored 12 yo with a hex editor vandalized the il2 code and spread it all over the net ?

keep your eye on the ball here, call a friend if you have any trouble understanding these simple facts:

- hacking the il2 code is against oleg will and is damaging to his company, so it is theft
- the whole file hack issue is diverting resources from the work on BoB, adding delays to the BoB release
- using the hacked files online is to get an unfair advantage, so it is cheating
- the open access to hacked il2 files is reducing il2 sales, so it is stealing money from oleg when he needs it the most to develop BoB

and nobody has any control over what happened once the files were hacked and the information released. anybody can now edit their own flight models and create Frankenstein planes, so quit the girly whining as if there is some great improvement around the corner for il2 where hackers with flowers in their hair are going to work for the greater good of the il2 community.

and anybody that is promoting the use of il2 hacks, like here in this forum, is directly and deliberately undermining Oleg and insulting him. Oleg is the one person that with a lot of hard work, blood sweat and tears, has given us the best ww2 aviation sim ever produced. is this your way of thanking him ? is there something in your warped little mind that can actually twist things around so much you believe that ?

anybody here think they can do any better designing a ww2 sim ? well let them start their own game from scratch and see how far they get. lets see how far you get with your little hex editor then.

people that have any real skills and wants to contribute to il2/BoB can do so in an organized and official way, like Foobar is doing in the german forum with his great trains and new houses for BoB, or like the people that made the new slovakia map for 4.09.

[stalkervision]

Originally Posted by SlipBall

No its true....Oleg gave the order......Get stalker! lol

actually Ivan and I are related. He is from the crazier side of the family but our side is pretty crazy also..

[jasonbirder]

hacking the il2 code is against oleg will and is damaging to his company, so it is theft

Just because Oleg is opposed to something..it doesn't follow that it is theft - how can it be when nothing has been stolen? Use of any of the Mods requires a legitimately purchased copy of IL2 1946, anyone utilising the mods has already benefited Oleg by purchasing his game...How is it damaging his company? Most people that consider purchasing the game will know nothing about any potential Mods (particularly as no mention of them is currently allowed at the Official Forum) and any that do will consider it completely normal - every single other combat flight simulation in existance has an active modding community.

- the whole file hack issue is diverting resources from the work on BoB, adding delays to the BoB release

It has already been categorically stated that there will be no further encryption added to the game and that no resources are being diverted away from the development of BOB-SOW

- using the hacked files online is to get an unfair advantage, so it is cheating

Cheating Online is nothing to do with the existance of community created third party mods, that have been designed to add new features and enhanced immersion to the IL2 game, it has everything to do with Onliners that will do anything to gain an advantage in a stat-driven "win at all costs" environment. Cheating and gamesmanship has existed long before the release of the Sound Mod.

the open access to hacked il2 files is reducing il2 sales, so it is stealing money from oleg when he needs it the most to develop BoB

How is it reducing sales? IL2 1946 is pretty much over from a sales point of view...when did anyone last see a copy in the stores...much less see one being bought? And besides do you seriously believe that someone who doesn't currently own IL2 but is going to will think..."I'd better not purchase this game, there are un-official community created Mods in circulation"

[123-Wulf-123]

JB you really are adopting the old "it wasn't me" tactic to try and deflect from the FACT that the HACK is illegal use of a encrypted code, which is the INTELLECTUAL property of 1c/Maddox.

You are using feigned ignorance of copyright legislation to justify the cheats and hackers position.

The fact is, that it is illegal, it is wrong, and there can be NO justification for it - period.

Keep going through the hoops in your head and maybe, just maybe, even you may eventually believe your own bullshitting smokescreen.

[jasonbirder]

I can't be bothered to repeat it all over again...but if you go back to the beginning of this thread...there is extensive discussion of the EULA breach and a conclusion...even by the "anti-mod" camp that it probably isn't illegal.

[123-Wulf-123]

More bs.....