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Old 12-15-2007, 08:27 AM
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No its true....Oleg gave the order......Get stalker! lol
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Old 12-15-2007, 12:45 PM
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No its true....Oleg gave the order......Get stalker! lol
actually Ivan and I are related. He is from the crazier side of the family but our side is pretty crazy also..

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Old 12-15-2007, 02:22 PM
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hacking the il2 code is against oleg will and is damaging to his company, so it is theft
Just because Oleg is opposed to something..it doesn't follow that it is theft - how can it be when nothing has been stolen? Use of any of the Mods requires a legitimately purchased copy of IL2 1946, anyone utilising the mods has already benefited Oleg by purchasing his game...How is it damaging his company? Most people that consider purchasing the game will know nothing about any potential Mods (particularly as no mention of them is currently allowed at the Official Forum) and any that do will consider it completely normal - every single other combat flight simulation in existance has an active modding community.

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- the whole file hack issue is diverting resources from the work on BoB, adding delays to the BoB release
It has already been categorically stated that there will be no further encryption added to the game and that no resources are being diverted away from the development of BOB-SOW

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- using the hacked files online is to get an unfair advantage, so it is cheating
Cheating Online is nothing to do with the existance of community created third party mods, that have been designed to add new features and enhanced immersion to the IL2 game, it has everything to do with Onliners that will do anything to gain an advantage in a stat-driven "win at all costs" environment. Cheating and gamesmanship has existed long before the release of the Sound Mod.

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the open access to hacked il2 files is reducing il2 sales, so it is stealing money from oleg when he needs it the most to develop BoB
How is it reducing sales? IL2 1946 is pretty much over from a sales point of view...when did anyone last see a copy in the stores...much less see one being bought? And besides do you seriously believe that someone who doesn't currently own IL2 but is going to will think..."I'd better not purchase this game, there are un-official community created Mods in circulation"
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Old 12-15-2007, 02:37 PM
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JB you really are adopting the old "it wasn't me" tactic to try and deflect from the FACT that the HACK is illegal use of a encrypted code, which is the INTELLECTUAL property of 1c/Maddox.

You are using feigned ignorance of copyright legislation to justify the cheats and hackers position.

The fact is, that it is illegal, it is wrong, and there can be NO justification for it - period.

Keep going through the hoops in your head and maybe, just maybe, even you may eventually believe your own bullshitting smokescreen.
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Old 12-15-2007, 02:39 PM
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I can't be bothered to repeat it all over again...but if you go back to the beginning of this thread...there is extensive discussion of the EULA breach and a conclusion...even by the "anti-mod" camp that it probably isn't illegal.
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Old 12-15-2007, 02:40 PM
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More bs.....
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Old 12-15-2007, 02:46 PM
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Did you even read what I was refering to?

This is a quote from Carguy - who has argued at length and with considerable passion against the Sound Mod

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Oleg has no legal grounds in USA.I`d like to see if this is repeated by any courts from Europe.In law systems other than common law only the Supreme Court has the last saying here so it`s not so easy.

I don`t agree with the modding one bit as it is no respect to developper but I guess that at least in regards to US citizens the law argument is out
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Old 12-15-2007, 02:48 PM
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believe your own bullshitting
Should we really be allowed to say that on a public forum?
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