Just FYI, SOW is not dead

[Feuerfalke]

Originally Posted by crazyivan1970

As i said... there is a big difference between publishers and developers...

Yeah, this little difference seems to be a big mystery, apparently even for those who claim to work in the business and run their own projects.

If you want to have news, regular updates, movies, WIP-stuff, Dev-Diaries, advertising-campaigns and stuff like that, you should post it on the UBI-forums, not here. Oleg and his team program this game, UBI-Soft is the one responsible for everything PR related, including approval and denial of informations being released by others.

[mondo]

Feuerfalke, while in a way your argument is valid, 1C is the Russian publisher for Maddox games. So Oleg has just as much validity to post new here as he does on Ubi.

[Feuerfalke]

Originally Posted by mondo

Feuerfalke, while in a way your argument is valid, 1C is the Russian publisher for Maddox games. So Oleg has just as much validity to post new here as he does on Ubi.

Not necessarily, as the internet is NOT limited to the Russian market. Their rights for publishing however ARE limited to that area.

As you might know from the past, there were pictures released in a game magazine about early phases of SoW, showing cockpits and stuff, before it was released in the rest of the world. How long did it take to spread the scans? Not a full day IIRC and I can very well imagine that UBI didn't really like that.

It was also mentioned several times, that 1C is not free to post news and stuff on the internet. This is not only true for SoW, but also for the Korean sim being worked on. It's pretty clearly stated on the RRG-Homepage that they cannot post updates as long as the title is not officially announced.

[mazex]

Originally Posted by Feuerfalke

Yeah, this little difference seems to be a big mystery, apparently even for those who claim to work in the business and run their own projects.

If you want to have news, regular updates, movies, WIP-stuff, Dev-Diaries, advertising-campaigns and stuff like that, you should post it on the UBI-forums, not here. Oleg and his team program this game, UBI-Soft is the one responsible for everything PR related, including approval and denial of informations being released by others.

Can you verify that Ubisoft is still the publisher for the western hemisphere? Got link? I don't know but the 1C/Atari co-publishing deal must have put some gravel in the machinery I guess. There was for sure an agreement with Ubisoft regarding SoW:BoB as the only official press release is from Ubisoft, and it SEEMS to be excluded from the Atari deal. Very little public information is available so I can only guess that everything is not as it used to be between Ubisoft/1C/Maddox Games. By the way, as you seem informed - can you explain the financing of this game. Who pays for the development? Ubisoft, 1C or Maddox Games themselves? Who has a deal with who by the way? Are all the international publishing deals going through 1C or does Maddox Games have a "loose" relationship with 1C. Who really owns Maddox Games by the way?

Regarding the claim that all information is channeled through the publisher and their web site, what is really the deal with the images and information in this forum from Oleg? This is the only information that has been released the last year and it's not avaliable anywhere on the Ubisoft forums... Why? Why does not Oleg post there instead if the business agreements between the developer and the publisher is crystal clear and everything is nice and dandy?

/Mazex

[Feuerfalke]

Originally Posted by mazex

Can you verify that Ubisoft is still the publisher for the western hemisphere? Got link? I don't know but the 1C/Atari co-publishing deal must have put some gravel in the machinery I guess. There was for sure an agreement with Ubisoft regarding SoW:BoB as the only official press release is from Ubisoft, and it SEEMS to be excluded from the Atari deal. Very little public information is available so I can only guess that everything is not as it used to be between Ubisoft/1C/Maddox Games. By the way, as you seem informed - can you explain the financing of this game. Who pays for the development? Ubisoft, 1C or Maddox Games themselves? Who has a deal with who by the way? Are all the international publishing deals going through 1C or does Maddox Games have a "loose" relationship with 1C. Who really owns Maddox Games by the way?

Regarding the claim that all information is channeled through the publisher and their web site, what is really the deal with the images and information in this forum from Oleg? This is the only information that has been released the last year and it's not avaliable anywhere on the Ubisoft forums... Why? Why does not Oleg post there instead if the business agreements between the developer and the publisher is crystal clear and everything is nice and dandy?

/Mazex

I'm not working with 1C, Maddox team, UBI-Soft or anything. But I do read forums and all the information I post is either posted here, on the UBI-Forums or over at SimHQ. There's nothing secret or insider-news about it. Just one minute of this nice little forum-search-tool or google will do.

You are right. There was a big storm in the fishbowl, when ATARI made the deal official they will publish future products for 1C in the western hemisphere. At this time, SoW-engine was already licensed to UBI, though, and not part of the deal with ATARI. Apparently UBI-Soft was convinced by the success of the IL2-Series, that SoW will be even more profitable and secured the deal quite early.
http://www.firingsquad.com/news/news...searchid=15164

Considering all news and circumstances I guess UBI-Soft does the major part of the financing, while 1C does the rest, so of course they also dictate what information is released, how and when. To put it more clearly: Maddox Games is producing the title, UBI and 1C have licensed or "bought" it, so it is practically theirs. That is probably also the reason why we see those little tidbits of information here and not on UBI: 1C probably uses their part of the deal to put out some information. That is up to them and UBI, though, not to Maddox Games or Oleg himself.

Remember that in the past with all products from the IL2-Line, even every single producers note-clip had to be sent to UBI approved and then was published on their servers. Same is for the patches and downloadable addons.


So, the answer why Oleg does not post just as he likes to, was answered several times, but apparently not in a way that pleases people.


Link (to one of these 1Cs forum btw.):
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...3886#post33886

Originally Posted by Anatoly

The release dates depend on our Western partners and their plans, so sometimes we can't give an exact answer to this question.

In other words: If UBI allows informations to be posted, there will be informations posted.

[jermin]

So, your former replies are all based on your speculation? Sweet.

[Feuerfalke]

Originally Posted by jermin

So, your former replies are all based on your speculation? Sweet.

Are you refering to me?

[HenFre]

+1 Jermin

[Feuerfalke]

Well, if you are refering to me, then there really is a lot of speculation.

But only from your side, interpretating my repeated statements that I have all my informations from the forums and google were just put forward to mask my close relationship to Maddox Games.

I'd very much appreciate a single quote of my replies, that says something different.

[JG52Uther]

Feuerfalke unfortunately in your replies to posts it does come across as though you are connected to 1C in some official way,like you are some sort of spokesman for Oleg or something! We know different but some people might be confused,and think that your answers are something more than conjecture,your opinion,or something you read somewhere on a web forum.
Maybe its a language thing.

Thanks Ivan for the heads up! Rumours must be flying thick and fast for you to have to make such a post!