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[xmac1x]

Originally Posted by SaQSoN

Because, a) there are lots of stuff still left out for the WWII; b) no one yet did a good enough (at least, comparable to the existing WWII subjects) simulation for the jet engines and avionics, sub- and supersonic FM, helicopter FM and so on. Who's going to do that? DT? Doubt it. Plus, how many planes for this era available ATM? One or two? What about ground units for the period? And so on. Without all that the 1956-66 planes are out of place in the IL-2 game.


Same questions, as above, plus there is already ROF, which is much better, then anything, modders or DT can suggest in this area.

Here's a simple solution! If you don't want it don't download it! UP, HSFX breathed a new life into this game, before TD was set up I believe, If somebody wants to make a mod about 1966 let them, don't like it don't get it and don't complain that it exists in the first place. UP is pretty well polished and doesnt at all feel like an arcade experience

[SaQSoN]

Originally Posted by xmac1x

If somebody wants to make a mod about 1966 let them

Absolutely. Who says, they can not? If someone wants 1956, or 1966, or 2366 martian frankenstein invasion - the can have it all in their mods. But not in the official add-on. That's the point of this discussion.

[WWFlybert]

look .. UP 2.01 and it's switchers allow 4.09m , 4.10m (rarely used now of course) and 4.101 .. I updated to 4.10 then 4.101 through the UP updater .. it was painless

yes, most servers are empty .. so what ? .. most of the ACTIVE dogfight servers are either 2.01 (with or without Zuti MDS 1.13 ) or 4.101 ..same with coop..

4.101 is great .. UP 2.01 is great .. both have things about them that are different ..

why fight or argue ? .. UP 2.01 has a 4.09m base .. so much credit goes to TD or UP 2.01 could not be what it is .. UP 3.0 will need to have ability to switch, with JSGME, to 4.101 .. because that is what the players want .. not having to switch between 2 or more installs to play online

you can argue that UP is inaccurate or incomplete in some respects .. you can argue that 4.101 is inaccurate in perhaps fewer respects and definitely that it does not have the variety / number of plane types or easy to enable options

1C was not perfect, TD is not perfect, the sim IL-2 1946 is not perfect .. TD, UP and SAS and smaller mod groups are all trying to improve IL-2 1946 with feedback from the players .. ( AAS is a joke, the guy running that does not even fly IL-2 and is developing a WWI sim based on Virtual Simulator / hangsim engine )

The game is made better by all of you .. rather than argue over who is *better* .. recognize the good contributions each group has made and be happy the options are for each to play the version(s) they want to play .. they are not mutually exclusive

[Hans Burger]

In my opinion, it is not a problem to have choice between different mod packs (DT, UP, SAS, etc...) since all are realised under SFS format and, at this level, a pack has not an advantage with regard to the other.
So, choice between one pack with regard to others will be done by the content and by the quality of it. I think, this kind of competition is very clean and, at least, the choice (the "winner") will be done by users. We are very closed to basic situations of real life and for me, it is a good point.

[II/JG54_Emil]

And since there are many and enough competitioners out there, DT could maybe take care of improving the core of the game and bring it to 2011 game standarts(Multicore, 4GB+ RAM, etc.).

This would be a sort of coorperation that would benefit the entire comunity.

[dFrog]

Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar

Which hopefully means, that they stop to include DT's work without any asking. I'd really like to see them going their own way.

Well, they're not alone. Remember Flakiten's flares ? And that's not the only one case.

Originally Posted by SaQSoN

I am for honesty and truth. Even if it hurts.

Me too, see above.

[Hans Burger]

Great idea, Emil.
In my opinion, it is probably more difficult as adding new maps, new planes, change an "0" by an "O" for button file, change some java class to add rew effect, etc..
But since we have developpers in front of us and not simple irresponsible modders, these points will increase significantly FB in a good direction...

[II/JG54_Emil]

Originally Posted by Le0ne

Paranoia ...... who there is more like a religion in here than anything else.

Le0ne out

???

[Asheshouse]

After reading some of the earlier posts I think I must post an apology for having spent the morning acting as an "irresponsible modder". I'm sorry this is all I have to show for it.

[SaQSoN]

Originally Posted by dFrog

Well, they're not alone. Remember Flakiten's flares ? And that's not the only one case.

List, please. Otherwise - you are a liar.