CoD disappointing in skinning matters! - Page 5

Skoshi Tiger · #41 03-30-2011, 02:27 AM

Has anyone actually found any errors with rivet placement or pannel lines?

If so they should back up their find with evidence and submit it as a bug to 1C, Then everyone gets the benfit of the change.

Cheers!

*Buzzsaw* · #42 03-30-2011, 02:58 AM

Salute

From my perspective, both sides in this thread have valid points.

I think those who want to see accurate panel lines and rivets have a right to applaud Oleg's decision.

On the other hand, those who want to be able to do the aircraft from scratch, I appreciate their artistry. Some wonderful skins have come out of IL-2.

Personally I think there is probably room for a compromise.

I think the rivet and panel markings should stay as they are.

But the weathering layer should be open to the artists in this community.

And I'll bet, if you ask nicely, Oleg and Luthier give you that option.

Remember one thing:

Oleg has already said the game's engine is going to be opened up for those who want to create their own FM's, aircraft, etc. I am sure the possibility of skins from scratch is going to be included in those options.

If what has been said by Oleg is to be believed, and I don't see any reason to doubt him, it may be that one of the community will be able to do a custom version of rivets and panels, submit it to Oleg, and have it incorporated into the game as an option to the standard version.

Oleg has said he wants to make the community input even stronger than before.

Have some patience guys, the game has just had its bum slapped and is just opening its mouth for its first yell at the world... If it lasts anywhere as long as IL-2, you will have a LOT of fun customizing all aspects CLIFFS OF DOVER...

ATAG_Doc · #43 03-30-2011, 03:33 AM

Yep. Actually I cannot agree more. I think they wanted to limit the wild schemes people used.

Cap'n Crunch · #44 03-30-2011, 03:58 AM

There's other considerations, we don't know exactly how all the modeling is tied into the skins yet, no one ever objected to damage model textures being locked in IL-2.

You have far greater latitude in creating a textured and detail based paint jobs. Hammered was a master at paint texture, even between the panels his overall paint technique was most impressive.

It's a fallacy to claim historical accuracy on rivet patterns and lines on even a 2000+ pixel map. You can only simulate or interpolate the feel, no way you can realistically recreate a full set of riveting or precise lines, there aren't enough pixels or sufficient detail on the models provided.

Lets see what can be done artistically first before throwing in the towel, some will find whole new opportunities to exploit their much larger canvas in a far brighter world.

ElAurens · #45 03-30-2011, 04:05 AM

I for one will not mourn the death of the over sized rivets that were visible on 90%+ of all custom skins in IL2.

It will also be nice not to have 20.5 gigs of skins (current size of my IL2 skins folder) taking up space on my drive. Honestly, there is no way you can possibly use all of them. I have a few favorites and the rest just take up space.

Not knocking the work of the fine folks that do quality work, but I have skin overload. Just don't need 'em anymore.

Richie · #46 03-30-2011, 04:16 AM

Understand this is way way back and things have changed but Ilya starts to explain the skins at 2:00 minutes. I'm not sure if it's the same now. I know there are still multi files to deal with though....No more black blobby rivets on 109s by some of those skinners

http://vodpod.com/watch/49899-oleg-i...a-about-sowbob

Richie · #47 03-30-2011, 04:30 AM

Is this skin in COD still??

Pierre@ · #48 03-30-2011, 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

Has anyone actually found any errors with rivet placement or pannel lines?

If so they should back up their find with evidence and submit it as a bug to 1C, Then everyone gets the benfit of the change.

Cheers!

- The Bf 109 E lacks a small rectangular panel on the starboard side of the fuselage, under the cockpit.
- On the Bf 110 C engine cowling, the hatch outlined in green located just behind the propeller is only on the port side.

Winger · #49 03-30-2011, 07:19 AM

You guys are talking of skinning. I am skinning too. Made quite some skins for ROF and now would love to make some for COD.

Could any of you tell me IF and if yes, where i can download the templates?
If not, has there yet been a statement from developerside as of when we will be given templates to make skins?

Thanks

Winger

Richie · #50 03-30-2011, 07:47 AM

I use this IL-2 109 E skin a lot.