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Old 11-30-2011, 07:09 PM
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Old 11-30-2011, 08:15 PM
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Old 11-30-2011, 08:55 PM
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Never let facts or data get in the way of bold proclamations.
Which is precisely why I didn't state it as a fact.

I don't work in the car parts industry, so I say "I would imagine" because the industry in which I DO work deals with this sort of thing all the time.

I do cost estimates. I know for a FACT that major consumer food plants will dump the exact same product into different branded containers that sell for widely varying prices. All on the same shelf!

The consumer will go to the store. Balk at buying the 'cheap' one since it can't be as good as the one that is 20% more. The one that's 40% more is just a rip-off, so the shopper says 'I will be a smart consumer and buy the middle priced one. It must be better than the cheap one, but not overpriced like the expensive one'.

Without knowing it, they've just made a 'choice' between three of the same product and paid 20% more for the pleasure!

So, I 'imagine' that industry and market tactics being what they are, the car parts industry operates much the same way.

I would also imagine that at one point in your life you've probably been the consumer in the example above without realizing it.
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Old 12-01-2011, 02:44 AM
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Thanks for your thoughtful reply wolverine. I must admit, I often wonder how much I can trust parts suppliers? How hard is it to print a label "Made in Germany" and put it on the plastic part made.. who-knows-where? Although I must say the quality of the label is superb, some of them stay in place for years!
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Old 12-01-2011, 04:29 AM
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1. I am concerned about his character. Or let me rephrase that, I am amazed to hear of a person so self-complacent that the prospect of certain death and the reflection of his life till this point only lead to him readjusting his interest in sportscars. One would have thought that he would have met other patients who do not have money to throw about, who do work hard in a honest profession, this resulting in him developing some kind of compassion for his fellows in misery. Guess not...
2. To all who get worked up and accusing me and others who have agreed with me so far of envy, please be assured, I have absolutely no material interest in what he or any other man does with his riches. Yet with them there come obligations towards the community, which are not dealt and done with by paying taxes. At least not in my understanding of the inner workings of a community of values. Btw, if paying taxes makes you all green-eyed and evil, why not move to the Cayman Islands? I have heard they welcome Scrooge-like moneybags with open arms.
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Old 12-01-2011, 06:02 AM
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It's easy to be idealistic when your talking about giving away something you don't have.
Maybe the guy manages to afford all that and still gives to charity, the article didn't say anything about it so we're just assuming he doesn't. I guess those cars are just what he likes same way we like flight sims. I mean should I sell my p.c and all my sim gear and give the proceeds to charity? Am I a bad person for wanting things that give me enjoyment while others have nothing?
I do regularly give to charity (Save the Children) but I could give more as could all of us I suspect. What is enough giving?
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Old 12-01-2011, 07:56 AM
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Wow.....Thanks for posting this. I am truly overcome with emotion at this heartwarming story. The guy was at deaths door and was then given a second chance in life. It was then in an epiphanic moment he realised the things that really matter in life. More Cars!!! It was then that the Almighty told him to go Forth and buy fleet of Porsches. PRAISE THE LORD!!! ALLELUJAH!!!

I care less about how much money he has, it makes a person no better or worse than anyone else, and money is not my God. Nice to have, and important but not everything in life. I don't want or more importantly 'need' a fleet of Porsches....Nobody does. Good for him, well done lol. Not religious at all, but I sincerely hope what Jesus said was true; which kind of leaves people like this up *bleep* creek without a paddle.

'And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.'

Matthew 19:24

Loads more, bit inconvenient for the stinking rich multi billionaire 'Evangelist' types. The types that say 'the poor are poor because it is all their fault'. Wouldn't dream of telling him what to do with it, none of my business and....Good luck. But I'm not the one saying 'Praise the Lord'. That said, I don't know the bloke and he might be the kindest man on Earth for all I know. He could also be working at KFC and pretending to own a fleet of Porsches. Its the internetz.

I would be interested to know how he made his fortune though, as he sounds a bit 'special'. There is NO need to CAPITALISE the words he DID for no APPARENT reason. What DO you THINK?
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Old 12-01-2011, 08:25 AM
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I would be interested to know how he made his fortune though, as he sounds a bit 'special'. There is NO need to CAPITALISE the words he DID for no APPARENT reason. What DO you THINK?
LOL your right! Terrific use of commas to replace all other punctuation aswell.
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Old 12-01-2011, 12:43 PM
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Another bit of info, since I have some experience with this as well:

Manufacturers will attempt to hide where they are producing items because that is also a bit of a thing for some consumers.

Something that says "Product of Canada" is quite different from something that says "Made in Canada" which is again different from something that says "Produced in Canada" and different again from "Manufactured in Canada"! One may have parts or materials that originated in Canada, one may be put together in Canada from parts made in other countries, one may be funded or have its operating business base in Canada, and one may be fabricated in Canada from materials purchased inside or outside Canada.

Companies will do whatever they can to get you to buy their product while producing that product for as little money as possible. That's the only way our current economies will function and companies can survive (and it's not even doing to great lately as you can see on the news!).

Some governments attempt to legislate how a company can label their products in this way to help protect consumers, but it's still very hard to decipher.
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Old 12-01-2011, 12:59 PM
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Companies will do whatever they can to get you to buy their product while producing that product for as little money as possible. That's the only way our current economies will function and companies can survive
This is wrong. There is way enough price margin to conceive and built completely most of the products on site in so called "rich" countries.

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