man gets new lease on life, celebrates by collecting air-cooled Porsches

bw_wolverine · #1 12-01-2011, 12:43 PM

Another bit of info, since I have some experience with this as well:

Manufacturers will attempt to hide where they are producing items because that is also a bit of a thing for some consumers.

Something that says "Product of Canada" is quite different from something that says "Made in Canada" which is again different from something that says "Produced in Canada" and different again from "Manufactured in Canada"! One may have parts or materials that originated in Canada, one may be put together in Canada from parts made in other countries, one may be funded or have its operating business base in Canada, and one may be fabricated in Canada from materials purchased inside or outside Canada.

Companies will do whatever they can to get you to buy their product while producing that product for as little money as possible. That's the only way our current economies will function and companies can survive (and it's not even doing to great lately as you can see on the news!).

Some governments attempt to legislate how a company can label their products in this way to help protect consumers, but it's still very hard to decipher.

TomcatViP · #2 12-01-2011, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bw_wolverine

Companies will do whatever they can to get you to buy their product while producing that product for as little money as possible. That's the only way our current economies will function and companies can survive

This is wrong. There is way enough price margin to conceive and built completely most of the products on site in so called "rich" countries.

The only things we lack is brain & guts.

bw_wolverine · #3 12-01-2011, 01:17 PM

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This is wrong. There is way enough price margin to conceive and built completely most of the products on site in so called "rich" countries.

The only things we lack is brain & guts.

Perhaps I overstated the 'only way our economy/companies survives' thing. So, fair dues there.

I never said companies don't build products 'on site' as you say. If that is part of their product's core value then making it in Canada, or Germany, or where ever adds to their product's saleability. That doesn't make it cheaper, though. Doesn't necessarily make it more expensive either, but make no mistake - they're not manufacturing something in Germany because of some altruistic 'German parts made by Germans for Germany!' creed. It's because the company and its shareholders see the added value that putting that sticker on their product carries.

Again, speaking from experience, I would wager that a company like Porsche will put out a tender for pricing once every three years or so for parts manufacturers from all over the world to bid on their contracts for manufacturing. They will take the pricing and evaluate it, associating a certain 'added value' to making the part domestically. Very likely, making parts domestically carries with it government subsidies and other benefits to things such as taxes and employment insurance premiums.

Luxury brands have more margin to work with, certainly, and that allows them to source materials and labour that costs more and still profit. But their overhead is often just as high as other companies that make their profits by selling a gajillion units. Porsche sells a lot of cars, but not as many as Ford. So their margin is higher, but it has to be to keep the company going.

None of this is simple enough to really be sorted on a flight sim forum

ElAurens · #4 12-01-2011, 10:31 PM

Imported cars have kept me fed, in a warm cozy home, and allowed me the ability to enjoy the little diversions, like flight simulation, for over 25 years.

Like the gent in question, it's my money, I made it, and only I have the right to say how it's spent. You want it to go to something that you feel is more important that what I feel is should go for? Sorry about your luck. If you really feel that you or anyone else, or worse, the government knows best how to spend MY money, than I suggest two alternatives for you:

1. Move to North Korea, and enjoy the benefits of a totally managed economy.

2. Take a long walk off a short pier.

Baron, when I was still at my previous job, we made a lot of 944 owners very happy by doing some homework and cross-referencing the Porsche and VW parts numbers. One example are the CV joints for the rear axles. The 944 used the same one as the VW bus and Vanagon. Same exact part in a Lobro (the manufacturer) box instead of a Porsche box cost 30% less.

It's a bit tougher for the air cooled cars, but even they pilfer the VW-Audi parts bin for switch gear and the like.

RCAF_FB_Orville · #5 12-02-2011, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ElAurens

Imported cars have kept me fed, in a warm cozy home, and allowed me the ability to enjoy the little diversions, like flight simulation, for over 25 years.

Like the gent in question, it's my money, I made it, and only I have the right to say how it's spent. You want it to go to something that you feel is more important that what I feel is should go for? Sorry about your luck. If you really feel that you or anyone else, or worse, the government knows best how to spend MY money, than I suggest two alternatives for you:

1. Move to North Korea, and enjoy the benefits of a totally managed economy.

2. Take a long walk off a short pier.

Baron, when I was still at my previous job, we made a lot of 944 owners very happy by doing some homework and cross-referencing the Porsche and VW parts numbers. One example are the CV joints for the rear axles. The 944 used the same one as the VW bus and Vanagon. Same exact part in a Lobro (the manufacturer) box instead of a Porsche box cost 30% less.

It's a bit tougher for the air cooled cars, but even they pilfer the VW-Audi parts bin for switch gear and the like.

If you really feel that you or anyone else, or worse, the government knows best how to spend MY money

What on Earth are you waffling on about? Don't recall mentioning any 'Government' at all.....or telling people how they should spend their money? Might be because I never did. If that point is directed at a specific post then make it clear instead of generalising. People are just making the point he sounds like a completely vacuous, ostentatious and barely literate twonk. BTW I've got a few suggestions for you.

1. Move a little closer to the screen, never mind a foreign country. Maybe you'll be able to read peoples posts better.
2. Leave the Politics out as this is forbidden by forum rules. Otherwise you're taking a long walk of the forum pier. Obvious Republican blowhard is obvious. Give it a rest.

ElAurens · #6 12-02-2011, 02:44 AM

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Obvious Republican blowhard is obvious.

And you chide me for talking politics?

So it's OK for people to say the guy should have given his money away, but not OK for someone else to say that it's his to do with as he sees fit?

Obvious double standard is obvious.

RCAF_FB_Orville · #7 12-02-2011, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ElAurens

And you chide me for talking politics?

So it's OK for people to say the guy should have given his money away, but not OK for someone else to say that it's his to do with as he sees fit?

Obvious double standard is obvious.

Nope. No politics, nor political viewpoint espoused....unlike you.

A simple statement of fact which I note you don't deny.

For the second time, its none of my business what he does with his 'hard earned', which I stated previously. If you are referring to others, then say so and address them and their post directly. Simples. To state the blindingly obvious, of course its his to do as he sees fit....we agree.

Obvious lack of reading comprehension is obvious.