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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

View Poll Results: Would you be willing to pay for additional contend?
yes 93 36.19%
no 125 48.64%
not sure 39 15.18%
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Old 08-27-2011, 08:13 AM
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No.

I bought clod on preorder, before the first reviews were out and on trust from the developers, based on their promises and claims.

As it stands now, it turned out to be a waste of money. I'm not especially upset about that however, as I consider my purchase to be a "thank you" for the years of enjoyment I got from Il-2.

Based on MG's current performance, quality of leadership and standard of community involvement, I do NOT intend to provide them with further handouts for old times sake.

I do not believe Maddox Games will profit sufficiently from this debacle to make good on what we have now. Therefore I would much rather support the emerging 777 studios and see some return on my investment.
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Old 08-27-2011, 08:58 AM
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Hahaha, no. No I wouldn't.
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Old 08-27-2011, 09:54 AM
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Ok, before everybody shakes their head in disbelieve and says "you have got to be out of your mind" read on.

RoF is doing this for a long time already, planes and now field mods for planes are available for purchase, microtransactions if you will. I am sure the purpose behind this is.....to make money...duh, yeah no kidding, but I am also sure they could not have developed the game to the stage it is in right now (offline career and other improvements) without a somewhat continuing revenue stream.
Improving the issues with CoD and meeting the needs of the community will take time and money. Yes the game should have been much better upon release, but we are where we are.
Thus I am posting the above question.
Personally I feel like RoF was a rip off, you got very few amount of planes and then had to pay £5 for additional planes, IL-2 traditionally has always had free content, yes it has had addons e.g. Pacific Fighters but these introduced toally different games or added loads of different aircraft, maps etc.

I just dont think there is any need for such a thing to be made into a transaction
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Old 08-27-2011, 09:58 AM
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No, absoloutely no even if it will happen soon with Steam. In the future may be.
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Old 08-27-2011, 10:06 AM
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Id pay through the nose again quite gladly , getting ripped off once was just not enough for me , where do I sign up.
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Old 08-27-2011, 10:38 AM
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I voted no. Unless there is a dramatic and immediate improvement in the way Maddox Games interfaces with the community, I will not be giving a single cent. Buggy release? We can understand that it's budgetary issues. Lack of communication? No, I cannot forgive that. It's disgraceful that a major developer would behave in this manner.

We were sold a defective and unfinished product. What do you do when you disappoint your customers? You open the curtains and show them what you're doing to make it right. That's the price you pay, and that's the burden you bear for asking us to have faith in the company who could just as easily take our money and run.
My thoughts completely,you've said it all mate,well put,the lack of communication speaks volumes about the devs as far as I'm concerned,there is no way I'd spend anymore money on this half baked project.

They need to wise up to the fact that patience is running out and that we're not all going to be hanging around on these forums forever waiting for them,time is running out Luthier,you need to communicate my old friend.
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Old 08-27-2011, 11:49 AM
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No. If and when CoD is patched up and running as well as IL2, then I'll consider it.
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Old 08-27-2011, 11:58 AM
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I would only be prepared to pay for additional content on the same lines as what we recieved in the iL2 series.ie:Additional theaters of operation that included relevant aircraft,shipping and ground equipment.
I voted NO for payment for small additions for this game series and will DUMP COD off my system and incinerate the collectors addition I purchased at the games release if this were to happen.
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Old 08-27-2011, 12:22 PM
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In the shape of well-rounded addon packs, sure!

In the shape of the "insert coin to fly plane" scheme of RoF, or even those "pay to pwn"-field mods - not in a hundred years. It made the full release version of RoF feel like a demo, a demo i had to pay real money for. The RoF model might be acceptable for people who are fully obsessed about the sim, but it really excels at making the occasional simmer feel closed out. Looking back, i feel more satisfied with paying for "The Beta" than with paying for "The Demo".

A little "app store"-like feature where reviewed and quality-controlled campaigns and missions could be obtained... why not? Just make sure that it's very accessible to content authors and does not make free content impossible (the famous mobile phone app-stores don't do that either).
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Old 08-27-2011, 01:18 PM
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Every person that posts on a web forum should know that there is something like game reviews or customer experience reports out there. So no should suffer from the scenario you described.

In most (all) game reviews I saw CloD was trashed. So those rants are very boring and complete lies because your situation is no ones but your own fault.
Don't you think you could have avoided your situation by just reading and not buying? It's like marrying the next girl you see just because you once had a good experience with one girl - usually you evaluate before acting if it's important to you. That also goes for money.

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I have to disagree with you here.

Myself and many others had been following development of the game for well over a year and in our enthusiasm for the game had registered pre-orders.

In the run-up to release there was a huge amount of passionate debate about the quality of what was being demonstrated by the devs. Some voices were very loud in questioning the state of the game but the general consensus view was that things would be 'alright on the night' as it were.

In my own case I found it easier to trust in the devs integrity - they never spelt out ANY potential issues at that stage - than to put too much store in the likes of what people like Tree were saying. There was always a believable reason/excuse from the devs to cover the various issues raised. It was possible to dismiss a lot of the critics as chip on the shoulder cynics.

The actual Russian release became a little like a casino game - no-one knew if the ball would land on red or black until then. When the actual state of the game became apparent the shit-storm started. I still remember feeling sick as a parrot at the news coming out on that day.

I kept my pre-order though for better or for worse. Still had some belief that it couldn't actually be that bad and wanted to support the game.

But to say we all went into this in full awareness of the state of play is wide of the mark.

edit: I'm wrong on one issue there - the devs did announce fairly late on that the dynamic weather and campaign would not be in the initial release but there was no mention of performance issues, epilepsy filter or anything like that until after release
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