P51D v 109K in BoP - Page 4

Panzergranate · #31 10-26-2009, 01:33 AM

I've noticed that the performance of the P-51 D5 in BOP more or less matches the lack of performance of the P-51 D5 in BSP, as I;ve noticed that the maximum speed attainable in both, in level flight, is in the 360 MPH range.

I've only manged over 400 MPH in steep dives in both BOP and BSP.

However only BSP seems to have the P-51 handling close to the real thing.

Ironically, the underpowered Alison P-51 A has a maximum speed of 360 MPH, so I'm wondering if somebody used the wrong figures somewhere??

irrelevant · #32 10-26-2009, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mattmanB182

There is only ONE American plane I have said anything bad about the whole time on this board. And I dont flaunt German heritage..just was pointing out that I am not Biased for America in every single way.

I mean, hell, the Corsair would OWN a Mustang. Is that a better comparison for you? So now you will say I am anti-Air Force and that I should join the Navy, right?

Your comments were way out of line to begin with, and now you want to hand me an olive branch?

How many times do I have to repeat that I love America? I am proud of my German heritage, but I never put Germany and Love in the same sentence.

So yea, I would say you do need a chill pill.

You not a mod anway. You have no business calling me out for anything to begin with.

Oh, LOL. A mod can only reprimand others (such as myself) or edit content on the forum. Big whoop. My business of calling you out was my opinion... because I was tired of hearing yours all the time. This is the one time I've been out of line on this board and there was a good reason for it. End of.

I'm handing you an olive branch because I'm tired and, frankly, we won't agree. I'd love to say you're anti- Air Force, but I don't think you are... and the Corsair was bad ass. LOL.

Whatever man...

mattmanB182 · #33 10-26-2009, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by irrelevant

Oh, LOL. A mod can only reprimand others (such as myself) or edit content on the forum. Big whoop. My business of calling you out was my opinion... because I was tired of hearing yours all the time. This is the one time I've been out of line on this board and there was a good reason for it. End of.

I'm handing you an olive branch because I'm tired and, frankly, we won't agree. I'd love to say you're anti- Air Force, but I don't think you are... and the Corsair was bad ass. LOL.

Whatever man...

I so wish they had the Corsair in the game. Didnt it have the highest K/D ratio of any plane during the war? If it was in the game, and you had a 360, I would show you how anti-air force I am.

The P38 was also badass..but not in the game.

FOZ_1983 · #34 10-26-2009, 02:05 AM

it was one of the navy planes i think that had the highest K/D ratio (im not including the buffalo in this)

was either the hellcat/wildcat/corsair

irrelevant · #35 10-26-2009, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mattmanB182

I so wish they had the Corsair in the game. Didnt it have the highest K/D ratio of any plane during the war? If it was in the game, and you had a 360, I would show you how anti-air force I am.

Finally! We have common ground. I would gladly take you up on that offer.

mattman, look, I'm sorry for being dick. I'm not sorry for my opinion, just as I hope you aren't sorry for yours. I am sorry, though, for making it more personal than it needed to be. I've listened to Soviet Ace's clip a few times and my intensity has subsided.

It isn't personal... after all, this is the intarweb and I'm sure you're a good guy IRL. As I said before, if we met in person I'm confident we would get along just fine.

In the future, let's continue to tout our favorites and agree to disagree on the P-51.

irrelevant · #36 10-26-2009, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mattmanB182

The P38 was also badass..but not in the game.

+ infinity (it should be, considering it was used in the ETO.)

mattmanB182 · #37 10-26-2009, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by irrelevant

+ infinity (it should be, considering it was used in the ETO.)

My grandpa fought in the pacific (engineers) and he always talked about how it was his favorite plane. Even though its not my favorite plane, it holds a special place in my heart. If it was in the game, I would give the 109 a rest more often.

I seriously hope they have more DLC eventually.

Panzergranate · #38 10-26-2009, 02:27 AM

The F-6F Hellcat was the highest scoring US Navy fighter with a 17:1 kill to loss ratio.

The F4U Corsair had a 10:1 kill to loss ratio and although it was faster than the Hellcat, the Corsair had the poorest turning circle and agility for any US Navy fighter, being secondarilily orientated towards ground attack and support

The Buffalo only performed well when NOT flown by inexperienced US Navy or US Marine personel, achieving a 2:1 kill to loss ratio with the Dutch and Commonwealth airforces in the far east and a 38:1 kill to loss ratio with the Finnish Air Force.

The only US aircraft carrier flying Buffaloes (B-339) was the escort and support carrier USS Long Island from 1941 until 1943. Despite numerous actions, the only losses were through accidents, usually involving landings.

Having flown the F-3A Corsair and Hellcat, in BSP, I'd go with the Hellcat everytime.

The P-51 also outclasses the Corsair on speed, agility, though not soaking up damage or odinance loadouts.

Soviet Ace · #39 10-26-2009, 02:31 AM

Can't well all just agree, that the Yak-3 would own any of these planes already mentioned. LOL

frame313 · #40 10-26-2009, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Panzergranate

The F-6F Hellcat was the highest scoring US Navy fighter with a 17:1 kill to loss ratio.

The F4U Corsair had a 10:1 kill to loss ratio and although it was faster than the Hellcat, the Corsair had the poorest turning circle and agility for any US Navy fighter, being secondarilily orientated towards ground attack and support

I've seen claims the Hellcat kill ratio was as high as 19:1.

Does a kill ratio include all kills & losses or just air-to-air?