IL2 and Sound Modding

[jasonbirder]

This is the one thing that I really dislike about discussions of this subject...not only do people who oppose third party/community modding want an opportunity to express their views and opinions...but they want to censor everyone that expresses a contrary opinion!
Not only is their discussion filled with offensive and emotive phrases

hacking crap

cheaters

pissed off

fucked up

biggest crock of S***

so bite me

You totally scewed it

lie, steal, and cheat

little jerks

mutually gratify themselves

But they would like to stifle any opportunity for rational adult discussion by banning any talk of the mods!

I am quite happy to read posts and opinions from people who i don't necessarily agree with...surely thats the whole point of a forum but talk of censorship because you don't agree with someone elses opinion is the start of a very slippery slope!

[csThor]

Originally Posted by Insuber

Gentlemen,

As a matter of fact I didn't see a strong message from UBI or 1:C or Mr Oleg against modders.

To answer this I simply quote Oleg here on this board.

Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox

I personally hate any hack that may damage fair online gameplay.

Source= http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...9844#post29844

The hacking of the code is by definition a threat to online security. It opened everything - and nowadays a laggy connection might result in someone being accused of cheating. Not the cheating per se is the problem - it's the suspicions that the hack roused because players can no longer be certain that everyone has the same settings.

Originally Posted by Insuber

On the contrary, evidence is that they at least tolerate mods in order to keep the game alive, and maybe more than this ... Moreover, the only UBI/Oleg forum posts I saw where either neutral or in favor of mods.

My sincere and friendly advise is to try to collect facts, instead of ignite like a rocket on the basis of assumptions ... this would also preserve a spirit of community and avoid dividing ourselves in factions.

You either missed the post I quoted above or you're making the very assumptions you accuse others to make. You interpret the lack of a grand statement as a quiet endorsement of someone hacking the code? Well ... let me make another assumption about your assumption: You say that, because it fits your agenda. So - did I hit the bullseye?

According to what I know about Maddox Games they are up to their noses in work for SOW, Oleg included, so they don't have time to populate some online message boards and cater to the information detox of some flight sim fans. The fact is for them Il-2 is history already and SoW is the future. You have three guesses which one has more priority.

[GOZR]

Each their own believes .. Now think about this when connecting to HL i see 85 % of peoples connected to open cockpits + icons on etc.. servers... i found this personally insulting and outrageous.. but some peoples like to use this software to fly open pits since they use and did built their own at home, this make sens but.. just looking around with nothing to block your views or able to see icons with tags on it to me it's worse than the mods by far.

I'm for the closed pit no icons and full FUUULL engine management.. is it a sim or not ?
Now
Lucky we are to have a Host settings controls... isn't it? we just need some kind of controls for this problemOnline I guaranty one big overnight success for this product and a longer life for IL2 if this is made. The best of both world.. This will in one case satisfy th purist files guys and the others.. This will make members coexist in peace and a lots of fun for all, and maybe some mod will be able to bring IL2 to a higher Simulator status.

[Thrud]

i installed satellite radio in may car. that will anger the anti modders of the others that own a car like mine.

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by Thrud

i installed satellite radio in may car. that will anger the anti modders of the others that own a car like mine.

No problem, just be aware that some modders might just believe your car looks better with a different color/rims/exaust pipes/windows/bumpers/brakes/interior and take it without your permission and change it via their likings.You won`t have a voice here. I`m sure you will be satisfied.

[GOZR]

Well all depend you can't touch the engine even a special chip... nothing.. there is the guaranty void if you do they boot you out.... ... remind me a bit the Host settings lock.. isn't it or even the police for this FM mod for cars on the road.. isn't it?

[Baron]

Originally Posted by JG52Uther

Baron keep editting your thread as much as you like.Swearing is unacceptable as there could be young people reading this forum.As for the modding,if Oleg is not happy with the thread (it is his companies forum) then it can be deleted.Happy with modding,or unhappy with modding,is irrelevant now.The deed is done.UBI did more to hurt Oleg financially than modding the game at this stage in its life has ever done.
Staggered release dates?
Securom?

Would u grow up allredy......worrying about faul language when people talk about illigal stuff and theft.

Get your prioritys straigh would u...please.


Thx.

[Baron]

On second thought, never mind.


Whats the point.


Over and out.

[carguy_]

RGR just wanted to be sure purist as untouch files which is different than correct or as well incorrect or anything else. Purist is not equal to better or closer to reality or worse just the original files..

Nobody said it is better/closer to reality.Vanilla is however the only version accepted by Oleg Maddox, the creator of IL2 Sturmovik game and supervisor of every patch/addon made for this game.All addons/modifications done against him are an offence to his personal laws as you modify his property.In some countries like the USA this is quite the question of being/not being an asshole but in othesrs it is theft.You also by creating/supporting hacks deny vanilla IL2 users ability to enjoy the game.You offend also their laws.

You can keep repeating the same stuff until you believe that hacks are any good or you are already there.Doesn`t change facts one bit.

This thread has 39 pages but only valid argument brought by modders was ONE and by ONE user namely jasonbirder.All vanilla users aruments stand strong.

Anyway a check version system for purist server or a modded version would be very good.. Just a matter of locking with the host

Oh yeah thanks you`re making a good example of what role vanilla users on these boards have.Clear misinformation, inform according to facts.

So I reply

the online host CRT=2 setting does not work.It was tested.

Myth gone out the window.

[GOZR]

You guys can't stay courtois... I'm trying to see all values here and understand all sides.

Purist is not equal to better or closer to reality or worse just the original files..
what don't you understand here.. this is pure logic..
Puriste = Untouch Files Original...