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it can be fixed ...PM me please ....
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12-11-2007, 09:30 AM
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The fact that hackers/modders ( yes, in this case they are one and the same) goes so far as to put any cockpit into an AI ac to get it flyable speaks volumes in my oppinion.
Has nothing whatsoever to do with "fixing" things that are "wrong", its just another case of wanting what u kiddies cant get, plain and simple. Id hate to be any of your parents at christmas time....really. Canging a canopy or a bar (to what u THINK is correct with NOTHING to back it up really) is one thing, but u all are STILL completly missing the POINT: "U" cracked the code and thereby STOLE the oppertunity to make those changes. Keep talking about the upsides, how u all just play offline and onliners are selfless whiners, how u just fixed things that allredy needed "fixing", how u all just wanna help (there`s a laugh), and so on. Fact of the matter is: u dont know what damage u did, noone does, maby u modders just completly fucked up ANY possibility of getting what u all wanted, legaly, simply because u just couldnt wait a little bit longer, noone can know for sure, exept Oleg. If that turns out to be the facts, all i can say is: Way to go dudes. Just remember, everytime u favor the hacking of IL2 u slap Oleg right in the face....and u morons even go into his "house" to do it. So much lack of respect i dont even know where to begin. When i think about it i think thats what gets my shorts in a knot the most...the arrogance. That alone tells me there is NOTHING anyone can say to change you kiddies minds, after all...u are all knowing, right? Your family and friends must be real proud. I mean, with that kind of knowlage u should be able to make your first million in a matter of weeks, right? P.S. Yah, i know, taking a moral approach to the problem is waaaay over u peoples heads, u proppably laugh at the very notion. Last edited by Baron; 12-11-2007 at 09:52 AM. |
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12-11-2007, 10:06 AM
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All i know is just this weekend i saw a red flier respawn and takeoff from blue airfield several times, even shot him down once when he took of from my airfield ( dont know what thats all about, testing maby?) Nothing more concrete at the moment that cant with some will be blamed on lag and so on, but im sure we will all see more to come. As it is now i only fly on weekends ( 1 or maby 2 times a week ) so i have no idea what goes on in the weekdays. Last edited by Baron; 12-11-2007 at 10:17 AM. |
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12-11-2007, 11:02 AM
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Thruth hurts doesnt it. And like im the only one.......well done singeling me out. Thx. Talk about grasping what one chooses and completly ignoring everythingelse...like the fundemental issue for ex. How about digging through all the bs and consentrate on the core issue? That being: moders are wrong on every level that has been debated here, no matter what u or anyonelse thinks. Thats maby why some (me for one) uses harch language, because 1: modders are plain wrong (sry for beeing the one tellling u this) 2: some people choose not to get it. I say choose because noone capable of using/doing mods is that stupid. And finally: People have the arrogance to come here and blab about it...and u concentrate on/wonder why there are insults and swearing...wow. This makes it a very frustrating situation. Dont know why but the word "Guppy" keeps popping up in my head. Once again, thx for singeling me out. BTW. Dont worrie about my "insults" and "swearing" cus i allredy passed the "pissed of" state. Whats the point really. We "selfless online whiners" can rehash the matter over and over again, spell it out in 1 million differant ways from here to sunday, but seriously, whats the point when most of "u" ignores the fact. ( What u think?..should i lay ot the facts ONCE AGAING here...or is it redundant? What u think? LOL ) Last edited by Baron; 12-11-2007 at 12:16 PM. |
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12-11-2007, 12:49 PM
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Gentlemen,
As a matter of fact I didn't see a strong message from UBI or 1:C or Mr Oleg against modders. On the contrary, evidence is that they at least tolerate mods in order to keep the game alive, and maybe more than this ... Moreover, the only UBI/Oleg forum posts I saw where either neutral or in favor of mods. My sincere and friendly advise is to try to collect facts, instead of ignite like a rocket on the basis of assumptions ... this would also preserve a spirit of community and avoid dividing ourselves in factions. As Cicero used to say: "cui prodest?". Who's is getting advantage of mods ? Are mods preventing the sale of one single copy of Il2-FB/1946? Are they instead keeping the interest for this game alive without efforts from the developers? And where technical information for modders is coming from? Best regards, Insuber |
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12-11-2007, 12:56 PM
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Baron keep editting your thread as much as you like.Swearing is unacceptable as there could be young people reading this forum.As for the modding,if Oleg is not happy with the thread (it is his companies forum) then it can be deleted.Happy with modding,or unhappy with modding,is irrelevant now.The deed is done.UBI did more to hurt Oleg financially than modding the game at this stage in its life has ever done.
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12-11-2007, 01:04 PM
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its just a new forum with new moderators who try not to immediately use a heavy hand and spank the naughty boys who are rude enough to bring all their hacking crap here. oleg has already stated his opinion on the hacking, and the damage it has done to his hard work and the il2 community. |
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12-11-2007, 01:20 PM
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Well, you may discuss this aspect of the game, but, please, don't insult each other. All of you are people, who respect theirselves and should respect each other. The only useful thing is a discussion, but not obscene words and the hatred in each word. Respect other members and they will respect you. Hope for the understanding.
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12-11-2007, 01:55 PM
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i think that is a mistake and the people hacking the files should be kicked out instead ! the hacking of 4.08 causes: - online cheating, and we are already seeing plenty of this on full real servers, like people with unlimited ammo, hacked and enhanced flight models, and no cockpit settings. - the online servers have been much less busy since the hack started, the online community is fragmenting, ths will worsen in the next 12 months while we wait for BoB - the hacks are not aimed at improving or fixing the game - the hack will reduce 1946 sales - the online community has been a strong and vocal proponent of il2 and supporter of oleg since the beginning, and the main reason for this has been the realism of the aircraft behavior and its good flight models. as you could see from the recent poll at ubizoo most of the online il2 users are more mature and older people, not 12 year old gamers that get a game bought for them by their parents. the reason for this older age group is because of the quality of the il2 game to simulate real ww2 flying better than any other game. undermining this by now tolerating any 12 year old hackers to create their personal flight models for each aircraft and then go and have "fun" online by creating havoc will seriously undermine il2's previous good reputation. magazines like computer pilot will publish this type of information, and it will undermine il2/1946 sales further. - new people that are interested in buying il2 and 1946 often go and check the official game forums to see if there are problems/bugs with the game. once they see the game has been hacked and that this is openly tolerated they will be much less likely to buy the game. why bother flying online if it is full of cheaters ? why bother buying 1946 if flying online isnt going to be honest and legitimate ? if that is however your and olegs official response to the hacking of 4.08, then you can tolerate on your forum whatever you want and choose, but i think you will create a frankenstein monster instead which will be hard to put back into the grave later. why not just release the source code then ? at least that would open up everything for editing and some ligitimate coders/programmers will contribute to improve the game further, rather than have cheaters online kill the game for the rest of us. it will then evolve like falcon4 or the rowan BoB did. Last edited by zapatista; 12-11-2007 at 02:36 PM. |
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