Friday 2010-10-01 Dev. update and Discussion

[ATAG_Dutch]

[QUOTE=zapatista;186782]yes he should be, and he has already been temp banned for it in the past/QUOTE]

I don't know what the past history is with you two but please stop it.

It's stupid.

Move on.

The pair of you appear like a pair of bitchy schoolgirls and it's extremely tedious for the rest of us, although you both have valid points to make.

That said, I am interested in both your opinions on the appearance of weathered squadron markings within the sim.

Any Thoughts? Or are you too busy scoring points?

[LukeFF]

Originally Posted by Freycinet

"This message is hidden because Tree_UK is on your ignore list."

Ah, really nice feature that one! I can recommend it.

+1

[LukeFF]

Originally Posted by Dutch_851

What do you think about the weathering of squadron codes?

I think the way they are displayed on the British aircraft is excellent, but the ones on the Italian aircraft are too transparent (as Oleg alluded to in his initial post here).

Otherwise, they are a major step up from the stock IL2 markings, which don't blend in at all with the airframe.

[Goanna1]

Originally Posted by Splitter

So the owner of the company comes onto the forum, posts works in progress, gives comments on what is in the pipeline, RESPONDS to requests, and then forum members bitch that it's not enough.

Yeah, you all will flame me and call me a fanboi, but I understand Oleg's attitude. When is enough enough? How many other games in development have the top guy interacting with fans before release? I've waited for a number of games and in only one other instant have I encountered an owner who interacts with the fan base prior to release in anything similar to this fashion and HE does it on his own terms. Oleg has gone above and beyond, you all need to shut it up for a while.

And are you all STILL griping about details that none of us will see when whizzing by at 300mph?

You all are enough to make a preacher cuss. Reminds me of my ex-wife.

Splitter

He does what he said he will do --give out info and as usual there are some whingers and whiners who want more
Oleg must be very busy with moving and continual production of this series yet 'enough' is not taken to be enough
I will happily wait till we are given more when he wishes to and has time to do it-we have waited long enough whats a few more months
patience grasshoppers!!

[johnnypfft]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptB4otetD6s

[Osprey]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Moaning at someone who, in turn, moans about the game is just as bad. Be the better person and take a step above. If they really are so low, then don't stoop to their level

I haven't Phil and I don't require patronising on it either, though I am sure your comment is in the best intention. I don't think you see that the guy is just entertaining himself, so you answer his silly remarks, and he's laughing at that. I've not answered any of it because it doesn't warrant an answer, I'd just rather see him not post anymore and not have the pleasure of Oleg's salivating updates.

[Osprey]

I think people forget that in 1940 everything was in black and white.......

[kendo65]

Originally Posted by Dutch_851

...
Mr Maddox also commented on the weathering of squadron codes etc. being a 'bug' that they may or may not resolve.

It can be seen on one of the G50 shots there there is something happening to the lettering where the paint is worn, but it doesn't look quite right. Not 'worn off' enough perhaps.

This isn't something that would bother me at all in the initial release, compared to IL2 they look great, but looking at the screenshot and filmmaker potential of the sim, what do others think?

Ok Dutch,

I've looked at the G50 shots. I can see that in the area where the camouflage paint has been chipped away to show the bare metal, then the squadron codes should have gone completely too. Instead they are just more 'weathered' looking. (edit: in reality I presume that the camo paint and national markings are factory-applied while the squadron codes are put on once the ac is supplied to its unit? If that's the case then maybe the squadron codes could sometimes be re-applied in the field over the well-worn camo? Doesn't take away from the fact that in the game it's still a bug)

To be honest it's not something that jumps out at me unless I'm specifically looking for it. The overall effect seems to be enough to 'fool' the eye, even though, technically, it's wrong.

I think the G50 shots look great - more impressive than some of the earlier Spitfire shots showing weathered markings.

Hopefully they'll fix it, but if not, for me anyway it's not a big deal.

[kendo65]

Originally Posted by proton45

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But its obvious that most of the people here have absolutely NO IDEA about the proper way to communicate their criticism of an ongoing creative project.

I have been a working musician and an artist...and I have collaborated with many brilliant artists...and I can tell you, "for a fact", that insulting, marginalizing, or speaking presumptively (the presumption being that Oleg finds all this bickering educational) with the artist, IS NOT, the way to communicate your thoughts.

+1

I've never bought the argument, used by some here, that the destructive critique is somehow more useful to Oleg, or that his main reason for posting is so that we can enlighten him with our superior insight and knowledge.

[Richie]

I still don't think we've seen a shot of the finished terrain..not really Compared to that Hurricane low over that section of London with even smoke coming out of a chimney why would everything look like mush from 10,000 feet. It just doesn't make sense to me. Wait until the website comes and if it still looks worse than that lawnmower sounding WOP then you can really complain.