Fw-190 Bar.. once and for all...

[Al Schlageter]

Depending how accurate the drawing is, did anyone notice the size of the 'bar'?

[LEXX]

Maybe its not a bar. Perhaps a pin. Windshield glass create high magnification.

[Rickusty]

While we're at it...


The FW190 is not the only plane with such a problem.

Look here... The mythical "lateral-vertical" bar of the Macchi C.202 !!










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Rick

[IvanK]

What are you referring to the Vertical line which is the Foresight or "Bead" for the backup ring or the cylindrical object to the left of the Gunsight ?

[LEXX]

Interesting. I think its the vertical canopy frame. But...does MACCHI have "gunsight view" like Luftwaffe cockpits? If so, we need to see the Luft View before making a judgement. Perhaps using Luft View, if available for MACCHI, moves the reticle more to the view center than the vertical canopy frame.

This is all fascinating stuff. As ElAurens poasted at ubi, the MiG-3's gunsight glass and (rather large) reticle is also interfered with by the cockpit model.

Unlike old timer Fw fans, I don't consider these "major" things, but small stuff in line with the reversed Yak compass, overly dark gunsight glass on Yak-9s, etc...small stuff like that, which should be adressed by modders if the Moscow Bureau does not have the time. You know how Central Committee directives change all the time and cause developers to develop ulcers.

[Codex]

Originally Posted by Al Schlageter

Depending how accurate the drawing is, did anyone notice the size of the 'bar'?

Thats the hinge for the MG cowling.

[IvanK]

Rickusty

Here an image of a Macchi MC202 with both forward and near the cockpit Airscoops



Plenty of images of Macchi MC202 with the forward scoop. Though not all had it.

[Rickusty]

No no, the thing that is wrong is the right canopy frame... which obstructs the forward view by a lot of margin...

IRL the gunsight view wasn't obstructed at all, look at the 2nd picture, and see as the face of the pilot and the gunsight are in a totally natural position... no canopy bar is obscuring the view from the inside.

The C.202 cockpit have been made wrong from the beginning... while the C.205 cockpit and canopy frames are close to reality...

Look at those pics.



The canopy frame obscures a large part of the gunsight view.



This is the cockpit of the C.205, which was basically the same airplane with a different engine

Look how the canopy bar isn't obstructing the gunsight view, as in the black and white picture ,taken from ahead of the canopy, shows..

So, not only the C.202 has porked guns, but porked gunsight view too...

Rick

[IvanK]

Ok I see your point ref the Canopy frame.

[Al Schlageter]

Originally Posted by Codex

Thats the hinge for the MG cowling.

Take another look. The 'bar' in game cockpit pics is certainly larger than what is shown in the drawing. Also take a look at the position of the instrument panel covering.