Fw-190 Bar.. once and for all...
 

I got this PM from a trusted community member today... This issue has been around here for as long as I can remember, therefore I am going to sticky this to the top of the boards for 7 days... Then I will move it, but IMO it is important enough and certainly such a historically controversial topic to warrant such treatment.

If he wants to name himself then by all means do so.. but since he sent this to me in a PM I will not post his name. The pictures speak for themselves.

Oleg got it right.

http://my.core.com/~jrjacobs/D04PilotviewwToScale.JPG
http://my.core.com/~jrjacobs/F06w-wo_refraction.jpg
finally look at this and note the apparent thickness of the glass on the far side versus the actual thickness of the glass on the near side
http://my.core.com/~jrjacobs/C03GlassSideView.JPG

This speaks volumes, and certainly much louder than the "opinions" of any simmers here, even myself, because I had an "opinion" on the issue as well, and apparently I, like all the others who said otherwise were wrong.

The picture showing blue line labeled "with refraction" indicates a bar that is somewhat lower than in the sim, relative to the revi.

Is this Correct Thinking? Its been a few years since I played The FB.

Very slightly, if at all.

The photograph should be reviewed with care, though:

1. There is no seat in this FW190D13 as you can see from the other pictures taken, so the photograph is guessing the point of view of the pilot inflight.

2. There is no engine and no nose attached, so the photographer is also guessing on the angle of view.

3. If this photograph was taken to model the view in a FW190, the overall visibility should be largely decreased compared to this:
http://www.avsim.com/pages/0102/il-2...a4cockpit1.jpg

IMHO there are much better pictures from inside complete FW190s present.

to late for IL2 Sturmovik!
but see this pictures:

http://home.arcor.de/fw190d9/sonstig...t/190a4tl1.jpg

http://home.arcor.de/fw190d9/sonstig...gstez42dc6.jpg

http://home.arcor.de/fw190d9/sonstig...sight_line.jpg

http://home.arcor.de/fw190d9/sonstig...Fw190sicht.jpg

http://home.arcor.de/fw190d9/sonstig...ht/fw190a6.jpg

here a video from the FW190A4 Cockpit:
http://video.google.de/videoplay?doc...98826330&hl=de

here a small Video how a Revi work!

Link:
http://video.google.de/videoplay?doc...21819993&hl=de

Here we go again!

:lol:

Notice Bear has vanished. Maybe he is hibernating to digest all the salmon caught with this.

How the revi works ... I thought it was a collimated display therefore reticle size would not vary as distance from the combining glass changes. That is a basic reason for the the reflector gunsights very existence. You will with most reflector sights have view angle limitations but reticle size should not vary with eye to glass distance.

There is something not quite right with this video. I suspect the optics in this sight are not original.

I noticed that, too. Especially with the building in the background you can see the gunsight changes size pretty much when moving back and forth. I doubt it was like that in the real thing or guessing distances really was pure guessing.

nah its just like a sniper scope if you pull back your head and look through it the object looks larger.

it actual stays the same size, it's just the reflection grows as you get farther away.

try it with a pair of high scoped binoculars you will see.