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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 06-30-2012, 04:43 PM
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Not trying to start a flame war either but since you write it in capital letters - maybe the thing you were missing is this:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softwar...ife_cycle#Beta

Looking up what beta means, if you don't know about it, could've saved you all that time to write your long post.


And just on a sidenote because I assume you will have difficulies accepting this. Even Blizzard, a company making billions of PROFIT, probably 1 million times more than maddox games, is testing their patches AND is working with reduced staff on patching WHILE working on sequels.

Even if 1000 people on this forum would've bought CloD for full price, that'd be like 50k of whatever currency. But not everyone did. Many bought it for 20. Now, that means a profit margin for MG of like 5-30 dollars per copy and that's like 15000 dollars in total. That's one workstation with licensed software!
Stop kidding yourselves. They are working with almost nothing. Even CRC screens last time I saw studio pictures. If you can do better - how about you fund a project yourself? Go to kickstarter and assemble a group of programmers, artists etc. and make a better game? :p I'm sure a "lot" of people will buy it.
Errrm I paid $100AUS...
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Old 06-30-2012, 04:54 PM
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I paid 133 AUS (108€), for 2 copies though But we're not the average buyer.
Many bought the game much cheaper. A few pre-orderered the CE etc., yes, but certainly not enough to keep this project afloat and healthy for this long. I've seen the game being sold for 16$ on sale...

In fact I still need a 3rd copy so I can let it run on my ded server.
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Old 06-30-2012, 05:05 PM
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Don't use beta, wait official patch. It's all that I can say.
yes ...how long??? come on...there are limits!
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Old 06-30-2012, 05:39 PM
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I'm with Ze-Jamz on this one...

Yes beta implies that it is not a finished product. Yes many get their knickers in a twist over patch release dates & content.

But the bottom line is in over 12 months very little has been achieved to improve the many bugs & associated issues. Yes the game has been made better for some in regards of fps, personally not an issue for me, but the many many bugs just keep building.

It was certainly implied that we were waiting for a patch that would fix many things and would not be released until it was ready... this has not happened. Clearly there is one man and his dog working on CloD.

The worst thing is the developers have stopped communicating in any meaningful way with this community. Blacksix seems to have his hands tied of knows nothing....no disrespect to BS, what we need is communication from a developer who knows what is going on.
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Old 06-30-2012, 06:00 PM
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Don't use beta, wait official patch. It's all that I can say.
Exactally!

Hence the name BETA!

What is so hard about this?

As in if you don't want to be part of the solution than wait for the final release!
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Old 06-30-2012, 06:51 PM
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Yes ACE, dont use the BETA with the CTD and bugs, use the last official patch that no servers use with the CTD and bugs....great advice.
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Old 06-30-2012, 07:11 PM
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I think it's the time it is taken to fix things that never seem to get fixed...I mean, how long until then next patch now because I cannot keep restarting my game after every Launcher exe crash. Are we talking weeks and months like we have waited for this one?

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Old 06-30-2012, 07:37 PM
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SO why arnt they using that same money to employ more people to work on the basics and getting this game to work....
The devs mentioned that they are constantly looking for people but can not find any. There are not many skilled flight-sim programmers in Russia. Russian game dev is not a very developed industry. We do not produce BF3 or Call of Duty or WOW here. If anyone wants to move to Moscow and help 1C you are welcome

I am not saying it is fine. I personally think the priorities and quality management are a bit off.
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Old 06-30-2012, 07:42 PM
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Colander,

Get your arse to Russia!!!
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Old 06-30-2012, 08:37 PM
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We can't find a free programmers with knowledge of aviation in the Russian labor market. This is a very big problem.
Also, we lost a lot of employees from the old team.
that explains it all to me. This seems to me the real reason why there are hundreds of new bugs reported with the new patch.But if the Devs can't cope with the programming stuff, which is understandable, they should be able to tell: "sorry, we can't fix it", and not let the community "hope for the best"
Anyway, thank you B6, this is for me the first realistic update since the sim was sold,proving the sim is realy almost ,imho, dead. Very pitty but thanks again
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