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[addman]

Originally Posted by TUSA/TX-Gunslinger

It's a great sign.

Developers are busy working.....

Trolls have found other targets. I believe that Luthier has done the smartest thing in the last few weeks, which is to stop providing information which is only going to be used to continue to "slam" the product.

The only way out of the current situation is by delivering better code, not by providing more fodder for the grist mill.

I've read all 3 forums every day, and for the last month or more - have refrained almost entirely from posting. It's hard to find a thread to contribute to, as they all head "negative" in about 4 posts. The same trolls time and time again, can't resist the urge for a "drive by".

All forums look pretty much the same. I suspect there are a lot of folks like me, who have spent most of their time setting up controls, flying single player, testing and really getting to know the guts of the simulation and the behavior of the aircraft.

For me, I can't wait till MP is fixed. Why? Then those of us, who've dedicated our time to the flight sim versus those who've made a career out of "forum posting" get to meet in the skies.

That is, of course, less that very small number of the community whose real hobby is "forum expertise" not "Combat Flight Simulation".

S!

Gunny

Yes, it's all good for you MP pilots but -believe it or not- not everybody play this game for the multiplayer. I play quite a few games online but IL-2 and CloD are amongst those games I prefer to play in single-player mode since I want to experience engrossing campaigns where one progresses and receive awards/new equipment/rise in rank. I don't get any rewards in flying around in an online furball collecting useless points. Co-op is nice though but it depends very much on who you play with and I don't want to be dependent on others for my gaming experience. That's where my main gripe with CloD lies, I expected it to advance in the single-player area or at least offer something similar to IL-2 but it actually took a step back from IL-2.

I can see where you're coming from though but don't try to make it seem as what only you think and what you enjoy from this game applies to others. There are no right nor wrong opinions in the matter of the state of this game. It all depends on what you, yourself expected from the game. Now back to playing the RoF campaign

[snwkill]

Originally Posted by Bobb4

I remember a time when on aFriday afternoon there would be a 100 plus members waiting for words from the master... And now it is virtually empty Not a good sign for any of us

Yea I don't play this game I just read the updates. Luthier said it would be a couple of weeks for a fairly big patch. So I figure we won't hear from him until then.

The main forum has gone down hill, with bitching and moaning, really no reason to be here if I know Luthier isn't going to post.

[TUSA/TX-Gunslinger]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger

I will keep on stating this until nausea: we need a better interaction with the development team.

I agree with you, in general. Where we might disagree is the timing. Until the code base is stable and all basic issues functional, I can't see where a whole lot of interaction is productive at this point.

I'm sure you remember the initial state of ROF. Long lists of "I want" + "It would be good to have" necessarily came as a lower priority to stable code - stable functions - functional online (even if it was Coop only).

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger

because let's not forget that we've been sold an unfinished beta.

Again, this is what many people said at this timepoint in RoF development/release. In fact, many people used the term "Alpha" then, applied in the same negative context.

The CoD that I have on my system, is light years ahead of where we started with RoF. Don't you think?

S!

Gunny

[TUSA/TX-Gunslinger]

Originally Posted by addman

Yes, it's all good for you MP pilots but -believe it or not- not everybody play this game for the multiplayer. I play quite a few games online but IL-2 and CloD are amongst those games I prefer to play in single-player mode since I want to experience engrossing campaigns where one progresses and receive awards/new equipment/rise in rank. I don't get any rewards in flying around in an online furball collecting useless points. Co-op is nice though but it depends very much on who you play with and I don't want to be dependent on others for my gaming experience. That's where my main gripe with CloD lies, I expected it to advance in the single-player area or at least offer something similar to IL-2 but it actually took a step back from IL-2.

I can see where you're coming from though but don't try to make it seem as what only you think and what you enjoy from this game applies to others. There are no right nor wrong opinions in the matter of the state of this game. It all depends on what you, yourself expected from the game. Now back to playing the RoF campaign

I never realized that my focus was "flying around in an online furball collecting useless points". Thanks for pointing that out for me.

Originally Posted by TUSA/TX-Gunslinger

I suspect there are a lot of folks like me, who have spent most of their time setting up controls, flying single player, testing and really getting to know the guts of the simulation and the behavior of the aircraft.

Did you read what I wrote?

This is a great example of what I mean by "drive-by forum shooting". I post one thing - then you change the context - to fit your agenda.

For the record, I enjoy Single Player too - and consider it an important aspect of any sim.

S!

Gunny

[ElAurens]

Meh, I've pretty much stopped flying altogether.

The CloD experience isn't worth the time, and IL2 now feels like a toy, and I abandoned ROF long ago, too expensive to keep up with and still no decent depiction of "the Front".

I'll be messing with ArmA II and Mass Effect 1&2 until CloD reaches a state as least as good as IL2 was on release.

Have fun guys.

[ATAG_Doc]

Originally Posted by Stukadriver

I am obviously not a routine contributor to this forum...although I have tried to keep tuned in to the ups and downs of the Cliffs of Dover saga. I see where people say that Oleg is gone, and other apparently key players in the development of this simulation are also seemingly vacant...where did they go? Who is continuing to correct the problems with COD? Or has it been abandoned...has Maddox Games really stiffed those people who bought it? I see where Amazon is advertising the game to be available after July 19 now...is that accurate and is this delay because someone is still trying to improve it?
It is hard for me to believe that Oleg and his crew would stiff people unless they plan to get out of the software development business. It would seem that such a move would not do their future credibility any good. They all look too young to retire.

You hit the nail on the head. I would never get this if I were you bro. This is a total mess. Horrible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlYLHEtFD-g

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by TUSA/TX-Gunslinger

It's a great sign.

Developers are busy working.....

Trolls have found other targets. I believe that Luthier has done the smartest thing in the last few weeks, which is to stop providing information which is only going to be used to continue to "slam" the product.

The only way out of the current situation is by delivering better code, not by providing more fodder for the grist mill.

I've read all 3 forums every day, and for the last month or more - have refrained almost entirely from posting. It's hard to find a thread to contribute to, as they all head "negative" in about 4 posts. The same trolls time and time again, can't resist the urge for a "drive by".

All forums look pretty much the same. I suspect there are a lot of folks like me, who have spent most of their time setting up controls, flying single player, testing and really getting to know the guts of the simulation and the behavior of the aircraft.

For me, I can't wait till MP is fixed. Why? Then those of us, who've dedicated our time to the flight sim versus those who've made a career out of "forum posting" get to meet in the skies.

That is, of course, less that very small number of the community whose real hobby is "forum expertise" not "Combat Flight Simulation".

S!

Gunny

Call me crazy if you want but i'll go ahead and agree with mister in the above quote.

My main difference is that i'm still posting on the board, posting a whole lot in fact, mainly answering questions about known issues that i've managed to learn about from others or through my own testing.

Communication is good and needed but some people just use whatever snippet they're given as forum ammunition: if it's lack of news they go "where's our update?", if an update is posted they expect it on the same day next week/they will ask when the stuff the update talked about will be ready for download/both, if they are told when the patch arrives they will be quiet until the day they can download and then it's a repeat of it all. Oh and if for some reason the patch is delayed to, god forbid, fix something and test it in a proper manner before releasing it, all hell will break loose.

For that reason mainly, i really hope the new community manager will also have mod status so he can swing the ban-hammer when it's needed and nip trolling in the bud.

Disagreement and expressing disappointment is fine, trolling is not in the message but in the way one conveys it. In short, if people display bad manners as a hobby they should take a few days off to sit in the naughty kids corner until they calm down.

There are perfectly fine ways to express disappointment with the sim and tell everyone it's not finished yet and they can even be useful: compile a list of known bugs and issues like Insuber has done in his thread, or do something that's actually useful to another member of the community

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by addman

Yes, it's all good for you MP pilots but -believe it or not- not everybody play this game for the multiplayer. I play quite a few games online but IL-2 and CloD are amongst those games I prefer to play in single-player mode since I want to experience engrossing campaigns where one progresses and receive awards/new equipment/rise in rank. I don't get any rewards in flying around in an online furball collecting useless points. Co-op is nice though but it depends very much on who you play with and I don't want to be dependent on others for my gaming experience. That's where my main gripe with CloD lies, I expected it to advance in the single-player area or at least offer something similar to IL-2 but it actually took a step back from IL-2.

I can see where you're coming from though but don't try to make it seem as what only you think and what you enjoy from this game applies to others. There are no right nor wrong opinions in the matter of the state of this game. It all depends on what you, yourself expected from the game. Now back to playing the RoF campaign

Once the game comes out in the US, and people on both sides of the pond get some time to become acquainted with the FMB, we will see plenty of fun campaigns.

All those people who made campaigns for IL-2 will be here eventually.

[=FI=Scott]

I'm no prolific poster but keep an eye out for news on development of the game. I have no interest in bashing either the developers or other players.

If for no other reason that the game updates have slowed down a bit it seems normal that thread traffic will go down likewise- what at this juncture is left to say that hasn't been said already ? Add to that the fact that Rise of Flight has had a very large update and is enjoying its time in the sun and i'm surprised there is as much going on here and at the other forum sites as there is.

When I got the game I started up a thread on our squadron forums and that has pretty much dried up too. the FI's have not even tried CoD multiplayer as a squad yet and I'm guessing we are not alone in that.

I hope the developers get to a point shortly where they are confident enough to proceed with the US launch as I would suggest that what this game needs is bums on seats in front of a cockpit, not on the forums doing personal wardances.

[mcler002]

I pop my head on the main page to see if there is any "updates" news... but never log on in the process...

lately ive been on the ps3 playing LA Noire too