wich one? saitek x52 or x52pro

[Sven]

Originally Posted by Chivas

Although this is all relative to the ability of the user.

That is probably the biggest part, the machine can only be as accurate as the human hand, right?

Also, another reason going for a specific brand can be where you want to invest, invest in Saitek, you invest in the East(asia) probably not supporting where you live, but you are of course when you live in asia , so if you are for example an American you can consider buying CH products ect. For the same reason I bought a Philips instead of a Samsung TV a couple of weeks ago, at least some money will be used to support your countries economy. Of course this is totally up to you, but you can take it in mind when buying certain products.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Chivas

IF the X52 Pro fixed the huge deadzone issue

Invest 20min of your time and you wont have a deadzone anymore, even on a non-pro.

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by Sven

That is probably the biggest part, the machine can only be as accurate as the human hand, right?

Also, another reason going for a specific brand can be where you want to invest, invest in Saitek, you invest in the East(asia) probably not supporting where you live, but you are of course when you live in asia , so if you are for example an American you can consider buying CH products ect. For the same reason I bought a Philips instead of a Samsung TV a couple of weeks ago, at least some money will be used to support your countries economy. Of course this is totally up to you, but you can take it in mind when buying certain products.

"Das kapital" don't have a nation. Most probably in any case your money will support a bunch of european/north american CEOs and the chinese economy.

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by Chivas

Unfortunately there hasn't been a good joystick since the MSFF2.

Try a cheap Thrustmaster 16000M. One year of heavy use here, modified to have longer shaft, and just perfect as the first day of use.

Maybe the moving parts don't last as long as a MSFF2, and I don't have FFB, but all the rest are really good.

One great and cheap piece of hardware, but with small recognition I don't know why.

[Antoninus]

Thrustmaster 16000M uses Hall sensors, the old MS sticks some optical sensor instead of potentiometers found in most joysticks. Both don't wear out over time

[Sokol1]

Originally Posted by PilotError

If I remember correctly the pro is supposed to have twice as many sensors (or possibly sensors twice as good ?).

Yes, PRO have two HALL sensor per axis (X and Y), but resolution is decrease in relation to X-52 Vanila: 1.024 in PRO x 2048 in Vanila.

Some "plus":
* 2 Spring in gimbal
* Trigger and HAT in metal
* 2 dedicated MFD buttons and 2 rotary dials with in-built buttons to
control additional game functionality
* MFD displays data directly from games, including Radio Stack info
from Microsoft Flight Simulator 9 and 10
* Software Development Kit included for creating game-specific
programs to interact with the MFD
* Choice of red, amber or green button illumination
* lluminated buttons and MFD - ideal for low light environments
* Throttle unit illumination varies depending on throttle position
* Enhanced MFD backlighting
* Improved cable management system

A good X-52 PRO review - made by SIMers (Google translation):

http://translate.google.com.br/trans...2pro_review%2F

Sokol1

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by swiss

Invest 20min of your time and you wont have a deadzone anymore, even on a non-pro.

Hi Swiss, I bought one of the original X52's, and took it apart to fix the deadzone, but found it was a software issue that couldn't be adjusted in the stick setup. This was also verified by other users. BUT this was along time ago. What is the new fix.

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM

Try a cheap Thrustmaster 16000M. One year of heavy use here, modified to have longer shaft, and just perfect as the first day of use.

Maybe the moving parts don't last as long as a MSFF2, and I don't have FFB, but all the rest are really good.

One great and cheap piece of hardware, but with small recognition I don't know why.

This one stick I've never owned, and it could be a very good stick. Unfortunately its all user relative. There were glowing reviews of most of the sticks I've owned, but I think the reviewers never had a good joystick to compare them too. One man's junk in another man's treasure.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Chivas

Hi Swiss, I bought one of the original X52's, and took it apart to fix the deadzone, but found it was a software issue that couldn't be adjusted in the stick setup. This was also verified by other users. BUT this was along time ago. What is the new fix.

Remove the magnet holder thingy, take both magnets, stack them up, put them directly underneath the hall, center them - done.

[Sokol1]

What is the new fix.

Magnets repositioning:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfJNi...eature=related

JoyTester before:



After:



Stiffen spring:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tewzm...layer_embedded

"How To":

http://orbxsystems.com/forums/index....22992#msg22992 (You need register to access the forum).
http://www.ala13.com/foro/viewtopic.php?t=6460

Sokol1