Advice for aviators switching to Simulation Mode

[Drvn1]

Originally Posted by hurricane

horribly violated?not in my match!!

Maybe not. However I have seen people that were new try the P-51, get completely dominated for a few matches and never play again.. Most of them also try to play on full sensitivity... I always try to help them, but it takes patience and some people don't have that...

[QBlackDeathQ]

Originally Posted by Drvn1

Maybe not. However I have seen people that were new try the P-51, get completely dominated for a few matches and never play again.. Most of them also try to play on full sensitivity... I always try to help them, but it takes patience and some people don't have that...

Yes agreed there are still alot of bugs in the game regarding controls as custom controls are crud when you try to use a joystick. I tried to configure the thrustmaster hotas x, and no dice. Wish they just gave you something like the thrustmaster setting `1 and 2 but would allow you to edit nonlinearity, and dead zones would be even neater if the sensitivity settings worked after editing your settings it seems to only work with the pad. The P-51 Club uses custom settings and full sensitivity so they have a bit more control over the plane. As you said it need practice and patience but unfortunately if you have a joystick you can’t use costume setting effectively.

[Robotic Pope]

Originally Posted by QBlackDeathQ

........ but unfortunately if you have a joystick you can’t use costume setting effectively.

or an xbox 360

[dkwookie]

Advice for an Av8tor switching from realistic to sim?

Dont try anything fancy
Buy some glasses
Buy a bigger TV
or Buy a projector

I have been on this forum for a long time but its time to let lose on some on some thoughts on this.
I have heard all this crap for so long about how great sim is and how the other modes are somehow inferior, I am really tired of that stuff.
I want manoeuvres and dogfighting not hiding in the clouds or down on the deck. I want to know who shot me not a random burst from some guy who was flying past.
I like arcade mode, I like realistic too.

Anyway I have had enough. Cheers guys

[hurricane]

funny i never heard anybody say what mode is superior,fly whatever in whatever mode you want,have fun.

[QBlackDeathQ]

Originally Posted by dkwookie

Advice for an Av8tor switching from realistic to sim?

Dont try anything fancy
Buy some glasses
Buy a bigger TV
or Buy a projector

I have been on this forum for a long time but its time to let lose on some on some thoughts on this.
I have heard all this crap for so long about how great sim is and how the other modes are somehow inferior, I am really tired of that stuff.
I want manoeuvres and dogfighting not hiding in the clouds or down on the deck. I want to know who shot me not a random burst from some guy who was flying past.
I like arcade mode, I like realistic too.

Anyway I have had enough. Cheers guys

Ok, ok I hear ya! And all I understand is that.
I don't like to take the extra effort to track my own targets manually I am so dim whited that I need the AI to tell me what to do! Having to do things for yourself is too realistic so I still like living with my parents. Things that are too hard aren't wort doing! Well I say! If you have mastery over arcade and realistic its time for you to step up. AS I Say things in live which are worth doing aren't suppose to be easy! You have to challenge yourself and consistently evolve to stay above the curve. What you just said is that “ I am not good at sim so I am not even going to try because its too hard! F everyone who feels sorry for themselves step it up and be a man stop crying because your not good at something at the start. Make yourself stronger, Adapt and overcome! Join JG-52!!!! just send me message!

we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender! I am sorry you disagree dkwookie

Wow finally someone who thinks the same as me. Sim is the top level in this game and to all u people who say we r just ground huggers and u want to perform manuevers and know who shot u, that's just garbage. The reasons combat has evolved into a ground war are 3 fold. Firstly the dive speeds r ridiculously slow, there is no chance of separation in this game. Secondly the god damn map icons which is basically onboard radar. Lastly the displaying of a black dot, your plane, at ranges that r unrealistic. In this game u can c spots over a mile away which was not possible in reality. Sim mode on the ps3 is still way 2 easy and i do not understand how anyone can argue this point.

[bobbysocks]

let me throw a spin on this...or ask a simple question. how many of you have actually been up in an aircraft? taken it off...landed? had it under your control? if you have then i wont have to tell you that the ONLY thing about sim that SIMULATOR and remotely close to real life, is target acquisition ( providing you dont use the map feature!). air combat was predominately all about the bounce! if you saw the enemy ac without them seeing you could sneak up on his 6 nice and close or make a diving pass and smoke them! in this game the guys here who have learned the tricks of sim play use that to their advantage and do exceedingly well. its a different difficulty and takes time to learn..but dont think that "sim" makes you more of an expert or its more to true life than realistic mode by any stretch of the imagination. without something like TRACKIR ( that is actually a HUGE factor), blackouts, redouts, stall shaking, compressibility, the heaviness of flight controls real and sim are virtually the equal in being devoid of real flight characteristics. the difference is the settings to begin with. fly real...no hud...no map...no target camera or tracking....and depending on the ac adjust the sensitivities and its just as hard as any sim game...but you dont have flaps ( they arent used correctly in sim anyway). fly sim NO map ( or any other way to detect EAs if you want "hard")... that levels he playing field. you may fly for weeks..months without a kill or even a shot that would be truer to life...many a high scoring ace has been shot down by more rookie pilots who bounced them. your kills would be worth something. each mode of this "game" has its limits and confines. different people due to their nature gravitate to one of the 3. it is not an issue of which 1 is better or harder...or more closer to actual flight...its just more enjoyable for you and that reason YOU bought this game was to enjoy it. challenge yourself and be triumphant. but lets not bash OTHERS who plays different modes or try to make ourselves better for playing one. lets let people experience this great "game" and enjoy it in the manner which they choose without laying on them some guilt trip or bash rap on them .... or online play for this "game" will cease to be. make it unpleasant, gentlemen, and they will leave....and then who will you fly with?

[Shadowcorp]

i don't like sim either wookie, i only play it when my friends do. Generally i find i don't like the ground hugging or the large numbers of guys who fly il10s; because they can't figure out how to hit with forward guns or they are just so bad they need the extra gun.
This is a game not a simpod, having been in a simpod and a a aircraft i can say simulator doesn't come close, because pilots have necks that turn easily without any thought this game doesn't give any sense of that.
My advice for some one coming to sim; if you can't shoot without target lock don't bother or just fly an il10 around you'll win plenty of games
either way like all the other modes it is not perfect and has it's flaws

[scottyvt4]

Originally Posted by gordon-vembu

Wow finally someone who thinks the same as me. Sim is the top level in this game and to all u people who say we r just ground huggers and u want to perform manuevers and know who shot u, that's just garbage. The reasons combat has evolved into a ground war are 3 fold. Firstly the dive speeds r ridiculously slow, there is no chance of separation in this game. Secondly the god damn map icons which is basically onboard radar. Lastly the displaying of a black dot, your plane, at ranges that r unrealistic. In this game u can c spots over a mile away which was not possible in reality. Sim mode on the ps3 is still way 2 easy and i do not understand how anyone can argue this point.

S*ite ................... you f*cked me over one of the first times i played sim knowing i was new to sim you heard me and Brigg chat, plus he was talking me through the game it was a dog fight in the sicily map and now i will very very very rarely play sim ............... and yes it was for the entire 20mins was fought 10 to 250 ft off the deck...... FACT!!

when i do play sim its the strike missions Gilly, shadow, McQ, kav ect ect miss playing realistic IMO its a great balance of all the aspects of the game the PS3 is a consule after all ......... for me the game needs more wookie amazing player (and top bolke into it) at this and ive also been missing from the skies been playing other games i really like this game and miss playing it online as much but its a progression i suppose

been practising off line and just cant quite get the hang of it ............ lol managed to master landings :p but the rest im struggeling would rather just load it up and fly!!!

just my 2ps worth

scotty