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Old 09-15-2010, 07:34 PM
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That's true. If a pilot is not sure, at the beginning is better to get close enough to spot the plane wing color before shooting, but after a while, when you get used to how game display planes on screen and map, knowing silhouettes and wing shapes and map usage is the best way to make sure you're hitting the right target. And, most important thing, to know what plane chase miles before getting at "wing color recognisable distance". I know that in real, most air battle was won by team work, wingman helping and covering each other... it would be very funny to try using some team / wingman tactics against enemy, maybe all wearing headset. In my opinion, of course! Thanks for the advices!

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Old 09-15-2010, 10:33 PM
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Also I would like to add.. Far anyone that may be new to this game and playing it online.. If you jump strait to sim DO NOT fly with the P-51.. I feel a lot of noobs try this plane online thinking it is the best and they get horribly violated by planes they have never heard of and they get discouraged.. The P-51 is a plane that takes a special skill that I have just now recently started to get good at.. You have to maintain a lot of momentum and fly at a high rate of speed before almost any manuever... This plane is definately capable of doing serious damage, however do as I did and go to training with the P-51B vs 16 spitfires.. Once you can accomplish this, then maybe you are ready to try it online.... The plane is awsome just not at low speeds in a turning battle
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Old 09-16-2010, 12:42 AM
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horribly violated?not in my match!!
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Old 09-16-2010, 01:34 AM
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horribly violated?not in my match!!
That happened in one of Brickster's matches, not yours

I felt sorry for those newbs

Anyway that is good advice from Blackdeath.
Don't forget you can look at the map too to acertain between friend and foe. When I boom and zoom I check before the dive that the spoted plane is red on the map. If there is red and green together, I try to spot both planes then match their positions on the map which tells me whether my friend is chasing or being chased and then I attack the enemy (or leave him if my friend is about to finish him).

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All have them in sim on PS3 mate: raised, combat and should the landing gear be down landing flaps. Save for fixed undercarriage (eg stuka) which dont have combat flaps.
Yeah the stuka only has landing flaps, but I'm pretty sure the I-16 , I-153 and Po-2 have NO flaps and also no trimmer.

Thats one thing I like about the Mustang, is it is one of the few planes to have aileron trim so you can negate the torque of the engine.
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Old 09-16-2010, 02:37 AM
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Also I would like to add.. Far anyone that may be new to this game and playing it online.. If you jump strait to sim DO NOT fly with the P-51.. I feel a lot of noobs try this plane online thinking it is the best and they get horribly violated by planes they have never heard of and they get discouraged.. The P-51 is a plane that takes a special skill that I have just now recently started to get good at.. You have to maintain a lot of momentum and fly at a high rate of speed before almost any manuever... This plane is definately capable of doing serious damage, however do as I did and go to training with the P-51B vs 16 spitfires.. Once you can accomplish this, then maybe you are ready to try it online.... The plane is awsome just not at low speeds in a turning battle
O man the P-51B/D's are great at low speed turns. You just need to know how to use it. It has a very low stall speed like 130- or somthing. You can also slow down faster then most fighters giving you the op to have a tango over shoot you landing you on his 6. I have seen alot of vet pilots put it into a spinn to slow down most new players will tend to over shoot. Then the pilot corrects and is on you like stink on a skunk.
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Old 09-16-2010, 09:28 AM
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Also I would like to add.. Far anyone that may be new to this game and playing it online.. If you jump strait to sim DO NOT fly with the P-51.. I feel a lot of noobs try this plane online thinking it is the best and they get horribly violated by planes they have never heard of and they get discouraged.. The P-51 is a plane that takes a special skill that I have just now recently started to get good at.. You have to maintain a lot of momentum and fly at a high rate of speed before almost any manuever... This plane is definately capable of doing serious damage, however do as I did and go to training with the P-51B vs 16 spitfires.. Once you can accomplish this, then maybe you are ready to try it online.... The plane is awsome just not at low speeds in a turning battle
Agree!

In few word.... P51 is hard and turn terrible! But the engine is good and have good performance. Turn fighting is not the 51 key to win battle... but it is still fun to fly. In my opinion of course. I wanna try that vs 16 spitfire... good idea!!!
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Old 09-16-2010, 09:31 AM
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yea bro no problem. and lol i fly drunk too ask around! you cant understand me but i can still shoot."emeni 6 shit sooht em i do dive em ahme brakeeee whoot yeahhhh! downed him like a shot of whiskey!!
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Agree!

In few word.... P51 is hard and turn terrible! But the engine is good and have good performance. Turn fighting is not the 51 key to win battle... but it is still fun to fly. In my opinion of course. I wanna try that vs 16 spitfire... good idea!!!
The engine power is actually quite average with rather slow aceleration which is one reason why its so important to stay fast or high. If you become slow and low it will take you a minute or so to recover altitude, and all that time you are basicly a sitting duck for any other fighter. Diving is the only way the Mustang can get up a good speed which it can maintain in level flight quite well. The Mustang does lose this momentum very quick if you start turning or use a lot of rudder though. If you want to stay alive its more important to use the extra speed to run until your safe to use the extra speed you have left to gain altitude again and plan your next atack.

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O man the P-51B/D's are great at low speed turns. You just need to know how to use it. It has a very low stall speed like 130- or somthing. You can also slow down faster then most fighters giving you the op to have a tango over shoot you landing you on his 6. I have seen alot of vet pilots put it into a spinn to slow down most new players will tend to over shoot. Then the pilot corrects and is on you like stink on a skunk.
Not sure how you got the impression that the Mustang is good in low speed turns? It's quite a heavy fighter with thin wings so its stalling speed is much higher than say - a hurricane. It does have very good landing flaps though which help to slow you down like you said VERY quickly and when used with rudder and hard turns its like hitting a brick wall lol. Usefull as a last resort to cause an overshoot but also extremly good for CTA games. You can go from 300+mph to landed in no time at all.
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Old 09-16-2010, 03:56 PM
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The engine power is actually quite average with rather slow aceleration which is one reason why its so important to stay fast or high. If you become slow and low it will take you a minute or so to recover altitude, and all that time you are basicly a sitting duck for any other fighter. Diving is the only way the Mustang can get up a good speed which it can maintain in level flight quite well. The Mustang does lose this momentum very quick if you start turning or use a lot of rudder though. If you want to stay alive its more important to use the extra speed to run until your safe to use the extra speed you have left to gain altitude again and plan your next atack.
Thanks for hints, i 100% agree with you, especialli in "good speed which it can maintain in level flight quite well" great!
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Old 09-17-2010, 07:40 PM
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O man the P-51B/D's are great at low speed turns. You just need to know how to use it. It has a very low stall speed like 130- or somthing. You can also slow down faster then most fighters giving you the op to have a tango over shoot you landing you on his 6. I have seen alot of vet pilots put it into a spinn to slow down most new players will tend to over shoot. Then the pilot corrects and is on you like stink on a skunk.
Most New pilots wont have any idea How to use it, which was my Original Point.. However from reading the forums I feel it may be a good idea for them to get into a match with you and spectate your flying. That is atleast how I learn...
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