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Old 02-21-2011, 07:45 PM
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So despite the fact that the man behind the game itself posted a few rows above you that it wouldnt get delayed you keep referring to amazon etc? ....
he's referring to amazon because Amazon is referring to UBI which is the publisher for 1C... UBI has the last say as to the release date even if 1c has completed development for the 'march release'... UBI could be delaying shipment to the west for marketing reasons... its always a possibility.
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Old 02-21-2011, 07:57 PM
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Im climbing and at low speed. The 109 has a little more energy. For a chance to hit it i have to get up the nose a bit more. So i extend the flaps.


Sorry for my bad english
actually, and I am no spitfire expert, the extension of flaps (such as the spitfires landing flaps) can be quite destructive in combat situations, because the landing flaps are equally designed to reduce aircraft speed and increase drag and lift. Thing is, you have to remember this drag is offset from the aircraft center of mass and may actually cause a nose pitch-down effect, even if the amount of lift increases.

Generally a high-wing aircraft will pitch up after deploying landing flaps, whilst a low-wing aircraft, will pitch down, even if the aircraft actually gains altitude from this.

I only base this on my aerodynamics education from the airforce..

Maybe somebody else can back me up more on this.

Edit: nvm here:

http://www.key.aero/view_feature.asp...ection=general

Quoted from article :

" After several graceful, sweeping turns, I slowly reduced power, lowered the undercarriage and dropped the flaps. As John had indicated, there is a marked pitch down with flap selection, and also significant deceleration. "

"Abeam the numbers, I pulled the power back to minus four on the boost gauge, waited for the speed to drop below 140mph, then lowered the flaps and added some more nose-up trim before curving back towards the runway."

I think it speaks that spifire had flaps ONLY intended for Landing Purposes!

I read somewhere that some versions of the seafire had 3 settings, UP, TakeOff and Landing to reduce the excessive drag on takeoff from carriers when previously using "Landing" flaps

Hope this answers your questions!

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Old 02-21-2011, 08:49 PM
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Stream's and rivers with their unique shape and flow direction, are needed for navigation. Turn off 80% of them and then wind-up in???
No one is navigating by streams. Rivers, sure, canals sure, but brooks and creeks and streams? they are inviisble from the air, that is my whole point.
A brook on the map that this game is based from that is never more then 10 feet wide on its highest flow day will still be 50 scale feet of shiny water visible from altitude, that is just not correct
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Old 02-21-2011, 08:56 PM
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he's referring to amazon because Amazon is referring to UBI which is the publisher for 1C... UBI has the last say as to the release date even if 1c has completed development for the 'march release'... UBI could be delaying shipment to the west for marketing reasons... its always a possibility.
You could be right as the publisher has the final say, depending when Maddox games releases the gold copy to them. Amazon etc gets the product from IC, and UBI depending on their location, which could be delayed. But UBI isn't the publisher of IC. Maddox Games is the developer, IC and UBI are publishers, Eastern and Western publishers respectively.

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Old 02-21-2011, 09:56 PM
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You could be right as the publisher has the final say, depending when Maddox games releases the gold copy to them. Amazon etc gets the product from IC, and UBI depending on their location, which could be delayed. But UBI isn't the publisher or IC. Maddox Games is the developer, IC and UBI are publishers, Eastern and Western publishers respectively.
Just before he answered the question I gave all of the hoge- poge of dates. The first date was 25 then on US UBI it was 22 of March then spring of 2011 on US UBI. Then on Canadian UBI it was April 19. About two lines down of questions he answers 25 of March so he saw all the dates and he sure saw UBI,

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Old 02-21-2011, 10:29 PM
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No one is navigating by streams. Rivers, sure, canals sure, but brooks and creeks and streams? they are inviisble from the air, that is my whole point.
A brook on the map that this game is based from that is never more then 10 feet wide on its highest flow day will still be 50 scale feet of shiny water visible from altitude, that is just not correct
Thats a interpretion of stream that isn't shared by many, i assume.
A stream is a very large river!
And brooks and creeks i haven't seen so far, only fair sized rivers.
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Old 02-21-2011, 10:39 PM
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A stream is a very large river!
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Old 02-21-2011, 10:41 PM
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At the moment there is no changes for the release date - march 25 of this year In Russia and in the west - at the same date.
Thanks for taking the time to keep us informed, much appreciated.
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Old 02-21-2011, 10:56 PM
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So despite the fact that the man behind the game itself posted a few rows above you that it wouldnt get delayed you keep referring to amazon etc? ....
Just to be clear, Oleg said 'At the moment there is no changes for the release date' - he didn't say it won't get delayed.

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Thats a interpretion of stream that isn't shared by many, i assume.
A stream is a very large river!
No it isn't. A stream is smaller than a river.
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Old 02-21-2011, 10:58 PM
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At the moment there is no changes for the release date - march 25 of this year In Russia and in the west - at the same date.

This is from one of the Mod sites

Hello,
Here we go with the BS. Cant even believe that these guys have pushed it back. Here is the email I got from amazon about Cliffs of Dover. Sad really...


"We have received new release date information related to your pre-ordered video game in the order you placed on February 05 2011. The release date for the video game listed below has been changed by the publisher, and we want to provide you with a new delivery estimate based on the new release date:

"IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover"
Release date: April 19 2011
Estimated arrival date: April 25 2011 - April 27 2011"
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