Poll regarding Steam users

[ElAurens]

In this case Steam is indeed a monopoly as you must have the Steam client in order to run the game, even offline.

Unlike, say, ArmA II where you can purchase the game on Steam, or not, and anyone can play online in any server they choose, no matter how they purchased it.

And I'm really starting to think that there a a lot of shills on both forums now promoting Steam as if there life depended on it.

[JG52Uther]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

And I'm really starting to think that there a a lot of shills on both forums now promoting Steam as if there life depended on it.

Quoted for truth.

[CWMV]

Well, I just registered here to reply to this thread.
Ive been playing IL2 since its debut here in the states. Between 1C, TD, and the modding community at large its been my go to flight sim for ~10 years. Ive been anxiously awaiting the release of this since 2005 and now that I find steam is involved, well, talk about a buzzkill. Ive used steam in the past, with bad results. Invasive programs that I never wanted in the first place, running in the background of my computer, stupid long download times and having to run this program even if I want to play offline (which is all I really do)...simple solution though, I'm just not going to buy it.
If there was any other option (short of SH5 type DRM) Id go for it, but this is too much for me to stomach.
I'm not going to cry about it, fact is its 1C's loss. I still have a top noch flight sim thats only getting better with age.

[zauii]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

In this case Steam is indeed a monopoly as you must have the Steam client in order to run the game, even offline.

Unlike, say, ArmA II where you can purchase the game on Steam, or not, and anyone can play online in any server they choose, no matter how they purchased it.

And I'm really starting to think that there a a lot of shills on both forums now promoting Steam as if there life depended on it.

Not at all i think its more the opposite way, people whine and moan about the evil Steam as if their 50$ lifetime investment depend upon it, comparing Steam with spy-ware and viruses just shows the ignorance.
How about take a chill pill, catch up and enjoy the most authentic flight recreation of ww2 ever to be released, or you can simply sit there waiting for Steam to go away, which won't happen.

[JG301_HaJa]

Originally Posted by leggit

I've been playing flight sims since the 1980's....i'm quite happy to use steam....speak for yourself.. as your not really qualified to speak for others.

Absolutely correct, wasn't intended in that fasion. Difficult to be correct all the time when English is'nt my native language, I appologize how it came out.

Still I think those raising their voice in concern shouldn't be dissmissed as anti-progression. I don't mind download versions. That is how I got RoF, Flaming Cliffs and DCS but I just don't like STEAM due to all the facts (as I see them) available in their EULA and in other forums and so on so forth. If that makes me a bad individual and marked as unsupportive of OM and 1C then that be it.

I will still be happy with all other sims on my PC and I don't have all the time in the world anyway with family and fulltime job.

[CWMV]

Originally Posted by zauii

Not at all i think its more the opposite way, people whine and moan about the evil Steam as if their 50$ lifetime investment depend upon it, comparing Steam with spy-ware and viruses just shows the ignorance.
How about take a chill pill, catch up and enjoy the most authentic flight recreation of ww2 ever to be released, or you can simply sit there waiting for Steam to go away, which won't happen.

Or, wait for the cracked version at which point Ill send a check for $50 to 1C.
So thats the only argument you steamers have? "get used to it"? Well apparently alot of us don't want to, and for that matter don't need to.
Steam is exactly like any other malicious software in that I dont want it, and wont of my own choice have it.
Not quite sure why the steamers have such a hard time with this concept?

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

In this case Steam is indeed a monopoly as you must have the Steam client in order to run the game, even offline.

Unlike, say, ArmA II where you can purchase the game on Steam, or not, and anyone can play online in any server they choose, no matter how they purchased it.

And I'm really starting to think that there a a lot of shills on both forums now promoting Steam as if there life depended on it.

Hows that different to "shills" on both forums creating damaging facts without any base about steam "like there life depended upon it" LOL

NO STEAM IS NOT A MONOPOLY IN THIS CASE, your not forced to purchase clod its a game.... your livelihood does not depend on clod, and if it does i will gladly take over your job

I personally am not promoting steam, i am merely trying to understand why people will flat out refuse to use a software which generally very few people have problems with and is FREE.

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by CWMV

Or, wait for the cracked version at which point Ill send a check for $50 to 1C.
So thats the only argument you steamers have? "get used to it"? Well apparently alot of us don't want to, and for that matter don't need to.
Steam is exactly like any other malicious software in that I dont want it, and wont of my own choice have it.
Not quite sure why the steamers have such a hard time with this concept?

A crack will still require steam.

[zauii]

Originally Posted by CWMV

Or, wait for the cracked version at which point Ill send a check for $50 to 1C.
So thats the only argument you steamers have? "get used to it"? Well apparently alot of us don't want to, and for that matter don't need to.
Steam is exactly like any other malicious software in that I dont want it, and wont of my own choice have it.
Not quite sure why the steamers have such a hard time with this concept?

Far from the only argument we have, but that post wasn't intended to list all my arguments.
I'm sure you and the rest of the crack-pirates will send your money straight to 1c maddox office....... riight.

[Fockzhound]

Also, I'm pretty sure you won't be doing much online gaming with the cracked version.

Look, steam has many more pro's than con's, it has saved PC gaming. Conservative Grandpa haters have teary eyes for yester year when PC games were stocked on shelves in large numbers. 1C have decided to use Steam to sell more copies of the games, why blame for that. It really isn't that bad, as 56% of people here know.

Cry some more.