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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 09-30-2012, 09:47 PM
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So from what I basically readfrom this is
It's just about as fixed as we can be bothered to fix it (or are capable of) , if you don't like it tough, we want your money???
Yes I read it like that too but with one caveat.......and that is they are not holding a gun to our heads for the money.

I don't think Ilya could have been any more honest, they messed up the release, they spent as much time as was commercially viable to fixing it, if they don't start making commercial successes then there won't be anyone to fix a damned thing in the future.
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Old 09-30-2012, 09:20 PM
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Interesting read. Some answers clearly were a snap to the community as community is not always that correctly behaving either. But would like to point out the AI is still crap, worth nothing but be a target drone. Communications are, well as stated, bits and pieces it seems. Planes do still disappear at certain distances or are VERY vague.

For the bomber guys I really hope the "LOD circle" with popping trees and buildings will be fixed as for them it is a pain to align correctly when target is visible like seconds before drop when flying higher up.

I am sure devs want the Battle for "insert Russian town here" be correct and not a CoDish fiasco as if they launch a failcake decipting "great patriotic war" in Russia they will be lynched by the angry mob within a week. Anything related to that era sells there more than weed in a campus Look at WoT subscriptions, in Russia 3-4 times than in rest of world.

Anyways..Seems we will be stuck with CoD as it is almost and then waiting for the next installment of the series. If any kind of SDK is released that will help some to revive CoD, if it is comprehensive enough. Thanks for the answers Luthier, awaiting for the next post with answers
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Old 09-30-2012, 09:25 PM
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I'm confused. Will CloD & the squeal be merged / compatible? i.e if i buy the sequel will i see its benefits when playing in a BoB scenario.

I'll reserve judgement until the Steam released patch. But it does not sound great, time will tell.
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Old 09-30-2012, 09:28 PM
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I'm confused. Will CloD & the squeal be merged / compatible? i.e if i buy the sequel will i see its benefits when playing in a BoB scenario.

I'll reserve judgement until the Steam released patch. But it does not sound great, time will tell.
The sequel will incorporate all the CoD content (hopefully improved as per the improvements coming with BoM). So, you get BoM and CoD as well. But it won't install into or on top of CoD.

That's how it worked with Il-2 and its sequel Il-2FB. FB had all the content of Il-2 + Finland and Hungary.
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Old 09-30-2012, 09:37 PM
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The sequel will incorporate all the CoD content (hopefully improved as per the improvements coming with BoM). So, you get BoM and CoD as well. But it won't install into or on top of CoD.

That's how it worked with Il-2 and its sequel Il-2FB. FB had all the content of Il-2 + Finland and Hungary.
Thanks. (I was not a original IL2 player)
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Definitely not planning to release any sequel features as add-ons for Cliffs of Dover, sorry.
Really need an answer to this. Are you saying that CLOD and the Sequel will not merge together the way Forgotten Battles and Pacific Fighters did?
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Very, very sad news re: trees

How can we have trees in old IL2, and not in the new IL2 is beyond me.

Maybe we should stop them from swaying in the wind??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?
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Old 10-01-2012, 09:46 AM
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No single word on SLI or FSAA. Riddiculous.

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Old 10-01-2012, 02:48 PM
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I developed real sympathy for mr shevchenko from his answers. he comes over like a real person and i feel i understand better why he has such a relationship with fans of the franchise, i really do.

but as usual it is answers like this which make you lose sympathy because of arrogance and because they are just simple incorrect:

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1. What specifically is preventing clouds from being depicted in a volume and quality that is competitive with other sims currently on the market?

Are you saying there is a sim out there today that has clouds of better quality at greater volume, and offering better performance? I.e. matches all three criteria, quality, volume, and FPS?

Because I know there isn’t.

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Isn't? I must be playing games that don't exist then? Rise of Flight, Battle of Britain II even, War Thunder, Wings of Prey . . . all of these have great clouds in quality, and volume and high fps.

Understanding the competition and recognising they have strengths, is a basic first business skill Mr Shevchenko

and PS, you have the same blind spot about dogfighting AI.

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Old 09-30-2012, 09:24 PM
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Thankyou for finding the time to do this Ilya and for your candid answers. Lots of food for thought here. Will be looking forward to more of your answers to users questions and looking forward to the sequal too.
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