The ICRC Thinks We May Be War Criminals..

[ElAurens]

Complaining? Whining?

I'm doing neither.

I'm just shocked that an organization like the Red Cross is wasting their time and our money on a subject so totally out of their purview.

It harkens back to the '50s and '60s when we were told that comic books would rot our brains by folks who thought they knew what was best for everyone else, when what they were really doing was projecting their own shortcomings on the rest of society.

i think we`ve already found out and documented that there are no links in any form. but if it leads to them knowing that after asking the question then fine. and maybe some educative influence may arise.

whats more annoying is that our games do not portray any decision making or morale choices that could slightly be concieved as related to real life warfare. And if they dont study arma whilst they study what we all know they will study.... theres another problem.

Only 15% of ww2 soldiers were willing to kill But 100% of COD/BF players are out to kill theoretically.

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by Ali Fish

i think we`ve already found out and documented that there are no links in any form. but if it leads to them knowing that after asking the question then fine. and maybe some educative influence may arise.

whats more annoying is that our games do not portray any decision making or morale choices that could slightly be concieved as related to real life warfare. And if they dont study arma whilst they study what we all know they will study.... theres another problem.

Only 15% of ww2 soldiers were willing to kill But 100% of COD/BF players are out to kill theoretically.

For each study that shows that there is no link between video games and violence I'm sure you will find one that shows that there is, but that's beside the point.

Like most other high tech countries Australia uses virtual combat simulators for pilot, tank, naval and infantry training. Why? It's got nothing to do with making the trainees more violent, it's all about creating conditioned responses.

You go through a series of exercises and if the training is successful you consistently make the right responses.

COD is supposed to be a WWII Combat flight sim. Now I have no problem if simulators have a way of penalizing kills that are not consistent with the period being simulated.

This doesn't have to be in part of a points system.

Let’s say you shoot down a couple of planes on your own side. One might be a mistake, but after a couple your own team mates would either kick you from the server or shoot you down themselves. What’s wrong with the AI pilots being made capable of the making a similar decision and attempting to shoot you down as well.

A lot of people are asking for a ranking and awards system for campaigns. If we do get one hopefully any medals or advancement will depend upon your actions and you're not going to get medals or increase your rank if you don't achieve your objectives. The opposite of that is if you go around hitting inappropriate targets there should be a series of penalties like being stripped of rank, thrown in the stockade, or taken and put up against the wall and shot!.

Should you get a DFC if you've just plastered your main objective but on the way home you hit a target of opportunity and it turns out to be a column of refugees?

I would hope that any awards system would be able to take a situation like that into account.

Cheers!

[raaaid]

if you shoot your team ai theyll shoot you down

[Pomm3s]

Guys,they should chill it,we are all playing for FUN and NOT for agression
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Why dont they dicuss about the lots of blessed people from lybian war?
Or about the hungry people in africa?

[Viking]

Yes it's just a video game!?
Are you really so naive and plain stupid that you can't see what the game - generation is capable off?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqYgHZyPNmc

Playing for fun eh! You hear about the drones killing hundreds of innocents all over the world? We are playing for fun !? Think not! We , the net, is educating millions of wana be murderers every year and it is not by accident. This is planned and executed according to orders.

Viking

[DayGlow]

Originally Posted by Viking

Yes it's just a video game!?
Are you really so naive and plain stupid that you can't see what the game - generation is capable off?

Playing for fun eh! You hear about the drones killing hundreds of innocents all over the world? We are playing for fun !? Think not! We , the net, is educating millions of wana be murderers every year and it is not by accident. This is planned and executed according to orders.

Viking

That's a nicely edited video that removes key parts, such as the reporters standing beside men with rifles looking around a corner at an advancing patrol. It was a combat zone and a patrol was ambushed in the area previously, that's why the Apaches were in the air there.

Try to find out the whole story and not the propaganda

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by DayGlow

That's a nicely edited video that removes key parts, such as the reporters standing beside men with rifles looking around a corner at an advancing patrol. It was a combat zone and a patrol was ambushed in the area previously, that's why the Apaches were in the air there.

Try to find out the whole story and not the propaganda

Bingo!

But to be honest.. the mods should lock this thread as it has gone political! That and before I tell these guys what I really think of them!

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Viking

Yes it's just a video game!?
Are you really so naive and plain stupid that you can't see what the game - generation is capable off?

Utter BS, we're humans, and humans have been capable of cruelties since the beginning of time.
No need for killer games, we're born like that.

[ElAurens]

Thank you Swiss, Ace, and DayGlow.