end of the road

[Rama]

Originally Posted by CloCloZ

The other problem is that every mod possibly "made official" could mean ... one thing less to sell for 1C!

If you have followed the history of IL2 since the first demo in November 2001, you would know it isn't a problem at all.
A good number of the planes actually present in the sim + a number of the maps where done by third-party "moders" and integrated in the sim by M:1C..... for free (in patches and free addons).

But I like the "open model" and I really would like to have such a ("controlled") thing in SoW/BoB, if not in IL-2.

This was exactly the model of IL2, until M:1C stated that the dev of the sim will be over, and that no more planes/cockpit/maps will ne accepted for integration (with different deadline for each).
Since the begining... every modder wanting to developp a nexw plane, and able to reach the quality standarts defined by M:1C saw their creation integrated in the sim.
Look at the last 4.09 patch/addon: all the maps were done by third-party team, and integrated in the game for free.... it's the last of numerous free patches/addon.

Now... ot go back on subject... I'm not sure (and even sure of the contrary) that digitall signatures will be enough to protect servers. Some real check (file check) has to be done to insure integrity.

[Avimimus]

Well, the way I look at it this, it all paves the way for BoB. Bob will have security and many other improvements, it is only a year or two now.

[Viking]

Originally Posted by Avimimus

Well, the way I look at it this, it all paves the way for BoB. Bob will have security and many other improvements, it is only a year or two now.

“Two years be sure!” Good lord not!

The problematic we see here today will almost certainly not exist in the next product as software evolves and lessons are learned.

[robtek]

Software may evolve and lessons may be learned but:
Cheaters will never learn and there is always somene who can´t keep a secret.
Some people may think that is pessimistic but i think it is realistic.
Let us hope we get a product that lasts as long as il2 and doesn´t "need improvement".

[-Ox-]

o..k....another thread about some guy crying about hacks

well stop playing the game..you felt you needed a thread about it? Well, good bye....i don't think anyone really cared. This post is in no way affecting anyone else but yourself...we will continue to play our modded up game.

Thread lock please.

[Robert]

Originally Posted by -Ox-

o..k....another thread about some guy crying about hacks

well stop playing the game..you felt you needed a thread about it? Well, good bye....i don't think anyone really cared. This post is in no way affecting anyone else but yourself...we will continue to play our modded up game.

Thread lock please.

And yet you cared enough to post. You're like a Hallmark card..... all warm and gushy.

[-Ox-]

Originally Posted by robtek

It is quite interesting how a simple statement calls such a response from the hack - users.
Especially interesting is the reply from lexx :
Only if we choose to fly with cheaters in some "free" Online anonymous public servers.
you just have to read it slow to enjoy the subtility of this text
Lexx, do you really think that anybody chooses to fly with a cheater on an online - server?
If yes than you need a reality - check.
And for the sound-hack, i really don´t understand the hype. It is interesting for maybe
half a hour and then you find it shortcomings as you do not hear if your engine starts to
fall apart, you start to miss the whole acoustical feedback that is included in the original
sound. The sound-hack is after a while still boring for a full-real pilot. But it is useful when
you are watching tracks where you don´t need that feedback.

...lol...thats the first time i've heard anyone say that the soundmod is boring..what soundmod are you using?

Ok, and do you really think there weren't any cheaters before this soundmod?

Yes, the game is now modable...and cheaters exist or whatever. But how many pointless threads are there gonna be about it? What point are you trying to make? If it irritates you that bad just leave IL2 alone and wait for SOW to come out. << It really is that simple.

[CloCloZ]

Originally Posted by Avimimus

Well, the way I look at it this, it all paves the way for BoB. Bob will have security and many other improvements, it is only a year or two now.

"Only a year or two"?
Well, add two years to the past year of modding and you'll have a lot of time of "void" after a somewhat premature death announcement about IL-2!
No wonder there are guys going on "independent" modding, with BoB still so far away and no chance of new official integrations in the current sim ...

In fact, my impression is that's a lot of trouble is coming just from timing here.
But honestly I can't say it's "bad timing": I could expect 1C team has a lot of work to do on BoB and no more people to dedicate at third parties add-on checking and certifying.
It's quite obvious they are aiming 99% at the new baby, it's their job.

I join my hopes for an even better sim, also with respect to these issues.
This one is so good that I'm absolutely sure I'll buy the next one the first day it will be on the shop shelves!

[BSS_Sniper]

Originally Posted by -Ox-

o..k....another thread about some guy crying about hacks

well stop playing the game..you felt you needed a thread about it? Well, good bye....i don't think anyone really cared. This post is in no way affecting anyone else but yourself...we will continue to play our modded up game.

Thread lock please.

What would've been even better is for you to just not have said anything and let it be. I'd rather you be banned than this thread locked. lol You should've taken YOUR own advice, if this bothers you so much, just keep your mouth shut and move on.

[-Ox-]

Originally Posted by BSS_Sniper

What would've been even better is for you to just not have said anything and let it be. I'd rather you be banned than this thread locked. lol You should've taken YOUR own advice, if this bothers you so much, just keep your mouth shut and move on.

...whatever man, i dont have time to sit on a forum all day and aruge with you..i do have a life. Whatever.