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Tvrdi 01-02-2008 09:52 AM

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well...i first flew il2 with demo release...now, if hack would be possible in 4.09...dunno if I would fly again...its just so f*ing sad....once greatest sim turned into arcade in "build the world for yourself" stile....

jasonbirder 01-02-2008 10:06 AM

Just in case you weren't aware...its not compulsary to use the Sound Mod
(In fact as i'm enjoying the new 4.09 maps I'm not using it myself at the minute...)
So if you don't like what you see...I have a simple no-click solution...
Go to the "other website" and don't download any of the Mods available there...
Navigate to your IL2 1946 Folder (or whatever you cave it called in your installation) on your hard drive....and don't install anything new there
Bingo! You are now able to enjoy your IL2 experience exactly as you could before

Tvrdi 01-02-2008 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonbirder (Post 33166)
Just in case you weren't aware...its not compulsary to use the Sound Mod
(In fact as i'm enjoying the new 4.09 maps I'm not using it myself at the minute...)
So if you don't like what you see...I have a simple no-click solution...
Go to the "other website" and don't download any of the Mods available there...
Navigate to your IL2 1946 Folder (or whatever you cave it called in your installation) on your hard drive....and don't install anything new there
Bingo! You are now able to enjoy your IL2 experience exactly as you could before

very nice, but whats with the 6DOF hack? you think they didnt touch anything else? just sound? and yes, it is my problem when im forced to play with ppl who fly in the same type of plane but with different max speed, dive speed, rate of climbing, views...etc. got it?

LEXX 01-02-2008 12:14 PM

Tvrdi::
Quote:

and yes, it is my problem when im forced to play with ppl who fly in the same type of plane but with different max speed, dive speed, rate of climbing, views...etc. got it?
Only if we choose to fly with cheaters in some "free" Online anonymous public servers.

proton45 01-02-2008 12:38 PM

Why are you posting this link?

Fighterduck 01-02-2008 02:30 PM

ok..and why people must be interested in the fact that you wont play again? just dont play. But starting a new thread basically always for the same thing over and over again....bah.
Nothing personal m8. But if you dont like it anymore because of those misticals mods, just dont play thats all. It happened..try to live with. If you cant just uninstall and keep your hearth in peace.

Tvrdi 01-02-2008 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEXX (Post 33184)
Tvrdi::
Only if we choose to fly with cheaters in some "free" Online anonymous public servers.


so spits vs 109s, warclouds etc. are hack free? tnx for notice

Fighterduck 01-02-2008 02:41 PM

ok...but we got already this http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=2300 where all can speak about their happiness or sadness of what happened....

robtek 01-02-2008 03:38 PM

It is quite interesting how a simple statement calls such a response from the hack - users.
Especially interesting is the reply from lexx :
Only if we choose to fly with cheaters in some "free" Online anonymous public servers.
you just have to read it slow to enjoy the subtility of this text ;-)
Lexx, do you really think that anybody chooses to fly with a cheater on an online - server?
If yes than you need a reality - check.
And for the sound-hack, i really don´t understand the hype. It is interesting for maybe
half a hour and then you find it shortcomings as you do not hear if your engine starts to
fall apart, you start to miss the whole acoustical feedback that is included in the original
sound. The sound-hack is after a while still boring for a full-real pilot. But it is useful when
you are watching tracks where you don´t need that feedback.

CloCloZ 01-02-2008 06:54 PM

I'm new to IL-2, so I'm not sure if I'm missing some technical details and I don't know if this has been suggested in the past, but in my opinion the modding/hacking/cheating debate could have a solution just by implementing public key cryptography in any FM/DM critical software module.

This way:
- by digitally signing their own made modules 1C could certify the authenticity of those official pieces of software
- by signing mods submitted to 1C by third parties (amateur users included), Oleg could give its approval to the FM/DM of new or modified planes, making them equally "official"
- IL2 online server administrators could decide which planes are allowed just by checking the digital signatures (1C signature or the signature of other trusted sources) or, on the contrary, granting even not signed planes
- every group of people agreeing on a defined and publicly known set of digitally signed planes, even modded, could fly on properly set servers (just trusting the good faith of server administrators, of course!) without the fear of "cheats"
- modders would be recognized as a welcomed source of improvement and not as cheating promoters
- offline users would be able to fly everything they want on their machines, allowing even mods by signing them, and that's a good thing, IMHO

Of course, all the above ideas implies that the sim is intrinsecally designed for cryptography (crypto modules, proper modularity of the pieces of software, etc.) and I doubt that now Oleg would make such an investment in a product that's at the end of its life.
The other problem is that every mod possibly "made official" could mean ... one thing less to sell for 1C!
But I like the "open model" and I really would like to have such a ("controlled") thing in SoW/BoB, if not in IL-2.

Just my 2 cents ...


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