What am I doing wrong with the spitfire ?

[Orpheus]

Whatever happened to this? I don't want to use CEM, and I'm now in a spitfire in the campaign - I'm barely getting 120 out of the damn thing? Will this be fixed, cause it essentially breaks the campaign?

[Babi]

Originally Posted by Viper2000

For this reason, I think that it would be wonderful if an option to force people to fly a single aeroplane until it was either overhauled or shot down was provided, especially for online use (since I suppose it's probably already implemented offline in campaigns).

Completely agree. not for the fast arcade servers, but with a difficulty option for those 128 players persistent online wars that were advertised with the game. Let the players have a complete repair of their aircraft every (insert number) hours of online flight. In this way respecting engine and structural limit would make sense.

[jimbop]

Originally Posted by plucka99

So this plane is basically unplayable unless you use CEM, great.

If you guys have enough buttons on your stick then map the pitch and radiator to some. I find pitch most important to be able to access quickly. It's really not that tricky to learn CEM despite what people like to say. I guarantee you'll get more out of the game if you do.

Having said that I hope the non-CEM settings are fixed since not being able to fly like an ace on these settings kind of defeats the purpose of them.

[Orpheus]

Originally Posted by jimbop

If you guys have enough buttons on your stick then map the pitch and radiator to some. I find pitch most important to be able to access quickly. It's really not that tricky to learn CEM despite what people like to say. I guarantee you'll get more out of the game if you do.

Having said that I hope the non-CEM settings are fixed since not being able to fly like an ace on these settings kind of defeats the purpose of them.

It's not so much whether we have the buttons or not, if they're anything like me they just prefer not to use the CEM. It's a whole other level of difficulty that some of us don't fancy yet, or at all. We shouldn't have to use it to get a flyable performance out of the Spitfire.

This has pretty much killed the GB campaign, as on my last attempt at a mission in a Spit, I couldn't catch up with the bombers! With the simple engine on (which worked fine with the Hurricane), it struggles to hit 200, sometimes as low as 120 with maxed throttle and level flight. That can't be right, surely?

[jimbop]

Originally Posted by Orpheus

It's not so much whether we have the buttons or not, if they're anything like me they just prefer not to use the CEM. It's a whole other level of difficulty that some of us don't fancy yet, or at all. We shouldn't have to use it to get a flyable performance out of the Spitfire.

Yeah, I understand. That's exactly how I started playing IL-2. I really hope the non-CEM model is fixed soon. I think it will be - what's the point of driving new people away with this?

I soon realised that I'd have to bite the bullet (which I was doing far too often I'm afraid!) and just learn CEM. It's really not that difficult and it is a completely different game when you get the hang of it. Anyone who is planning on learning CEM at some stage shouldn't leave it too late. Bad habits can be hard to break...

Order of business IMHO: 1) ensure radiator is open to allow cooling; 2) learn how to trim the aircraft, especially rudder and elevator trim since most early fighters don't have aileron (a loose spring joystick helps here, cable ties are just great to reduce spring tension!); 3) keep an eye on the ball & slip indicator and trim with rudder to get true forward flight; 4) focus on prop pitch interactions with throttle to keep the boost pressure under control or risk the dreaded perforated water radiator.

[skouras]

Originally Posted by DC338

Rubbish

actually hes right
the rolls royce suggest that back in 1940

[hockeywarrior]

This problem really needs to be fixed ASAP. Learning the ins and outs of complex engine management takes time -- something that I don't have a lot of. This bug essentially makes it impossible to fly a Spitfire in any useful way, which is a game-breaking bug if you're talking about the majority of players who aren't using CEM yet.

I totally plan to figure it out in the future, but in the mean time I expect this bug to be fixed so that the game is actually playable ...

[Orpheus]

Originally Posted by hockeywarrior

This problem really needs to be fixed ASAP. Learning the ins and outs of complex engine management takes time -- something that I don't have a lot of. This bug essentially makes it impossible to fly a Spitfire in any useful way, which is a game-breaking bug if you're talking about the majority of players who aren't using CEM yet.

I totally plan to figure it out in the future, but in the mean time I expect this bug to be fixed so that the game is actually playable ...

Really hope so... I was enjoying the GB Campaign and was looking forward to getting in a Spit for the first time. Sucks to find out I can't continue playing until/if it's fixed - makes me wonder what everyone else is doing, why there aren't more reports of this as it literally breaks the campaign!?

[hockeywarrior]

Originally Posted by Orpheus

Really hope so... I was enjoying the GB Campaign and was looking forward to getting in a Spit for the first time. Sucks to find out I can't continue playing until/if it's fixed - makes me wonder what everyone else is doing, why there aren't more reports of this as it literally breaks the campaign!?

People are either unknowingly dealing with a severely underpowered Spitfire and aren't shooting anything down or are playing with complex engine management on and have spent the needed time to figure out how to do so without blowing up your engine every 5 seconds.

[SdS49r]

This is a Bug that needs to be addressed RIGHT AWAY. The hurricane flys great in the GB campaign but the spitfire is a dog. If the hurricane flys great without CEM then the spitfire should also. That seems pretty simple to me.
Why all this talk about CEM, prop pitch, rpms and engine management?? Seems like quite a few comments above just don't get it! It's broken and needs to be fixed. If not then the majority of us cannot complete the GB campaign. Am I right?