What am I doing wrong with the spitfire ?

[jimbop]

Originally Posted by plucka99

So this plane is basically unplayable unless you use CEM, great.

If you guys have enough buttons on your stick then map the pitch and radiator to some. I find pitch most important to be able to access quickly. It's really not that tricky to learn CEM despite what people like to say. I guarantee you'll get more out of the game if you do.

Having said that I hope the non-CEM settings are fixed since not being able to fly like an ace on these settings kind of defeats the purpose of them.

[Orpheus]

Originally Posted by jimbop

If you guys have enough buttons on your stick then map the pitch and radiator to some. I find pitch most important to be able to access quickly. It's really not that tricky to learn CEM despite what people like to say. I guarantee you'll get more out of the game if you do.

Having said that I hope the non-CEM settings are fixed since not being able to fly like an ace on these settings kind of defeats the purpose of them.

It's not so much whether we have the buttons or not, if they're anything like me they just prefer not to use the CEM. It's a whole other level of difficulty that some of us don't fancy yet, or at all. We shouldn't have to use it to get a flyable performance out of the Spitfire.

This has pretty much killed the GB campaign, as on my last attempt at a mission in a Spit, I couldn't catch up with the bombers! With the simple engine on (which worked fine with the Hurricane), it struggles to hit 200, sometimes as low as 120 with maxed throttle and level flight. That can't be right, surely?

[jimbop]

Originally Posted by Orpheus

It's not so much whether we have the buttons or not, if they're anything like me they just prefer not to use the CEM. It's a whole other level of difficulty that some of us don't fancy yet, or at all. We shouldn't have to use it to get a flyable performance out of the Spitfire.

Yeah, I understand. That's exactly how I started playing IL-2. I really hope the non-CEM model is fixed soon. I think it will be - what's the point of driving new people away with this?

I soon realised that I'd have to bite the bullet (which I was doing far too often I'm afraid!) and just learn CEM. It's really not that difficult and it is a completely different game when you get the hang of it. Anyone who is planning on learning CEM at some stage shouldn't leave it too late. Bad habits can be hard to break...

Order of business IMHO: 1) ensure radiator is open to allow cooling; 2) learn how to trim the aircraft, especially rudder and elevator trim since most early fighters don't have aileron (a loose spring joystick helps here, cable ties are just great to reduce spring tension!); 3) keep an eye on the ball & slip indicator and trim with rudder to get true forward flight; 4) focus on prop pitch interactions with throttle to keep the boost pressure under control or risk the dreaded perforated water radiator.