Thoughts about Friday's update

[Mysticpuma]

Originally Posted by BlackSix "This is my fault. I should collect 5-10 old questions and send them to Ilya. But I made new threads and I collected over 200 questions. I don't know when he'll find time for this."

Honestly B6 if that's the best that can be done it's just opening this thread up to the harbingers of doom. Sadly I believe I have become one

You offered us after (MANY) months the chance to actual actually get answers to the many issues that have been raised. The community again was sparked into life! At-last, a chance to get some actual, proper input from the devs.

What do we get! No answers, too many questions!

Seriously?

The only issue is that this whole fiascoof disrespect for those who really love the IL2 series who again were lured into thinking that we we important to the devs, feel again that we have been lined up for a practical joke!

I can see Luthier rolling on the floor laughing "haha, they actually believed I was going to listen! Too funny! Put the questions in the bin, I have to finish my next practical joke and see who falls for that!"

The only reason the disrespect and disillusionment has swept this forum is from the totallack of interest and apathy apparent from 1c regarding those who actually care to post issues or bugs that need fixing only to hear that the bug tracking isn't even read!

But post your questions regarding the real issues and bugs and Luthier will ignore those too!

If anyone at 1c had bothered to visit these forums, react to the vast input that has been made, the community wouldn't have had to ask so many questions (that he can't be bothered to answer). They could have been answered over the last 18 months in something called a Friday update?

The total lack of disrespect and apathy on the part of 1C is something I don't believeI have encountered in years of visiting forums.

The main issue now is trust. We are told (well guess!) that BoM is the next greatest Sim, but why the hell do you expect us to believe that, when 1C can't even be trusted to answer genuine questions regarding software on which people have already spent money?

I don't know if 1C can gain the respect back, once bitten, twice shy!

I can only say as others have, we are all busy, we all have jobs or other things that encroach on our time, but we care about this product which is why we offer input and suggestions for making it better.

It's a shame that 1C don't appear to have the same passion for their product as we do and that can only mean they are not interested in anything but the money they get.

If Luthier makes an effort in his busy day to spend just 20 minutes on a Friday (even at home!) like we have done daily for many months then it would be a start, but what makes us think that he will be bothered after his last foray into the forum?

The only issue that has made negativityrage through these threads is the the lack of input after Luthier apparently showed he was interested in the community. The lack of answers has reinforced what many believed, that we'll only be of interest again when he has some more dodgy software to offer from the back of a car!

He needs to answer the questions that we took time to ask to at least start gaining some respect and credibility if he wants us to believein his commitment to us and our future investment in software he claims is fit for release!

Answers to questions please that were asked and we'll go from there.

Disillusioned, MP

[esmiol]

sincerely...now we should tstop to speak about friday's update but Half year's update.....

[Baron]

And then it was locked.

[kristorf]

Amazing isn't it, Codemasters released F1 2012 last week and there were complaints about certain things, amazingly they have released their second patch in three days.

Extract from something called a 'read me' (never heard of those, have you??)

''We are working on other issues you have reported via the forums, Facebook and Twitter and are working to fix them as quickly as possible. In the meantime, please note that we are still collecting feedback via our Technical Assistance forums and do encourage you to post your issues there being sure to include as much information as possible. ''


How's that for customer service??

[Mysticpuma]

Originally Posted by kristorf

Amazing isn't it, Codemasters released F1 2012 last week and there were complaints about certain things, amazingly they have released their second patch in three days.

Extract from something called a 'read me' (never heard of those, have you??)

''We are working on other issues you have reported via the forums, Facebook and Twitter and are working to fix them as quickly as possible. In the meantime, please note that we are still collecting feedback via our Technical Assistance forums and do encourage you to post your issues there being sure to include as much information as possible. ''


How's that for customer service??

Steady on Kristorf you'll be accused of being negative about the communication on these forums from the dev's

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by kristorf

Amazing isn't it, Codemasters released F1 2012 last week and there were complaints about certain things, amazingly they have released their second patch in three days.

Extract from something called a 'read me' (never heard of those, have you??)

''We are working on other issues you have reported via the forums, Facebook and Twitter and are working to fix them as quickly as possible. In the meantime, please note that we are still collecting feedback via our Technical Assistance forums and do encourage you to post your issues there being sure to include as much information as possible. ''



How's that for customer service??

Please remember that those people had a very stable engine to poke their hands into.

[klem]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Snapper

Thanks, Klem. Ooops, he HAD the Rotol CSP after all. My bad! LOL

I have no excuse, I have the softcover version of "Nine Lives" on my shelf. I first read that book in 1963. Spotted the hardcover version in the tiny church library one Sunday -- seemed a far more interesting read to a nine-year-old boy than the usual tomes a church library would stock. Couldn't put it down, reread it a thousand times (guess I didn't retain much, though. ). Back then I would've been flabbergasted with what a home PC and peripherals could do using a title like Cliffs of Dover forty-nine years later. Then again, so would the RAF! LOL

Well it wasn't about someone being right or wrong, it was a clarification of the state of Squadrons regarding the CSP at the time of Dunkirk. I don't have the Desastersoft Dunkirk campaign but maybe they included at least one squadron with the CSP (no reply needed thanks).

MysticPuma....I suppose I differ only in that I have *always* been disillusioned with this game, it doesn't carry the bitterness of recent realisation or disappointment with comms. They have always been piss-poor, with mis-placed levity and silly, patronising white-washes and half-truths. And very little concrete improvement in key areas (for me).

To my mind the pre-release was a tangled botch, the intended game and creative silence on certain features combined to make things even more wretched, and the thing they gave birth to was then even worse than could have been imagined...so subsequent hope for improvement always looked unlikely.

That said, homing in on one person will just give the mods a reason to wield the whack-a-mole thread-hammer once again, and dilute the underlying message. But I realise it's also just a 'sod it, I don't care anymore' response - which is fair enough.

And it really is a sad state of affairs if the devs/BS use the general growing discontent as a justification for not replying.

I'm with Pudfark - it's all so far beyond farce now that you wonder how creative the next balls-up will be. Sad to say, we're usually not disappointed. If anywhere, that's where the admiration lies.

[Fall_Pink?]

Don't be too harsh on them. They already know they screwed up big time and are totally unable to fix this. The poor game engine just won't let them fix anything that matters to us.

Let's hope they'll fix the flawed game engine with BoM and add most of our requests.

They cannot afford to relase another CoD, that's for sure. It's all or nothing for them right now. I have hope, but this time I wait for the reviews...

Rgs,
FP

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by SlipBall

Please remember that those people had a very stable engine to poke their hands into.

Bingo!