The Crystal Ball 2

[bongodriver]

Hi Stern,

All good points and a very level headed way to see things, but it is still slightly naive.

it's funny how the newbies alway seem to join immediately after recent bannings, uncanny how they often have buzz phrases 'like it's been over a year now this is a joke'....a genuine newbie might be somewhat less bothered having purchased the sim for about $10 , theres always another way to see things.

[Sternjaeger II]

yeah but it still remains that if an actual newbie reads the way people are treated here, he will be like "the hell with these delusional nerds, I'm outta here" and will put the game on the shelf.

And it's not just about delusion or being a nerd/fanboi or whatever, it's about being selfish: some folks here really think that for some reason they're entitled to know better than others what's right or wrong about this sim, looking at minuscule details to avoid realising the biggest, dramatic picture; they're happy if people leaves, so that they can be the undiscussed kings of this mountain of rubbish. Happy for people to leave! Can you imagine anything more counterproductive for a niche product like this?!

It's sad, I'm sure that all that energy could be channeled along better routes, but for some odd reason being aggressive on a forum is so much easier and rewarding for these individuals..

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

this place could have been such a fantastic opportunity for community help and support,

It is. Just look in the technical/performance/gameplay sections and you'll find plenty of help and support.

As far as the game itself is concerned, patch or no patch, online play can be terrific. Ditto designing your own missions/campaigns in FMB.

Sure the Launcher crashes are there online, but all you do is clear the cache and jump back in.

We'd all like to see the patch released for a lot of reasons, but the idea that the game is useless without it is just plain wrong.

But one thing's for sure, you won't find help and support for your gaming needs by lurking in the Pilot's Lounge.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

it's funny how the newbies alway seem to join immediately after recent bannings, uncanny how they often have buzz phrases 'like it's been over a year now this is a joke'....a genuine newbie might be somewhat less bothered having purchased the sim for about $10 , theres always another way to see things.

Whats even funnier is they, with thier new handles, really thing they are fooling people

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

What made me think of it is the last examples of newbies (alleged or not, it doesn't matter) who voiced their opinion and disappointment and were so stupidly attacked and accused of god knows what.

Most of them were actually spare accounts of banned members who stated thet they would not return. But they have returned like they always do. For a good whinge.

And hey, again I'm sorry if my opinion upsets someone, but if you aren't mature enough to take a critique and ask mods to ban negative comments and people who made them, then you'd better shut this place down and thinking about what the hell went wrong down the line fellas.

While the mods probably try to keep this place going, it is not hard enough. Always two-three spamming negative threads follow a dev update but nor they nor the users that created them get infractions. Some of the mods have an ignore list so they don`t see any of the spam posts. They are probably ignoring the user reports aswell.

[bongodriver]

Can you imagine anything more counterproductive for a niche product like this?!

A forum filled with uninhibited slander/complaining/whining/other forms of malice, or would you say that these things are not happening? is jumping onto the 'soap box' and shouting at 'everyone' that because you consider the game doomed and <insert criticism od choice> not selfish?

It's sad, I'm sure that all that energy could be channeled along better routes, but for some odd reason being aggressive on a forum is so much easier and rewarding for these individuals..

I just hope you are including both sides of the fence to this statement.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by furbs

Bingo!

Agreed 100%

[bongodriver]

I might add I just served my 2 month ban for being an 'uberfanboi'.....didn't notice rallies of support over it.

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

I might add I just served my 2 month ban for being an 'uberfanboi'.....didn't notice rallies of support over it.

Wondered where you'd been. Welcome back mate!

[JG52Uther]

No mod has an ignore list. The ignore list function is there for forum members to ignore posts from people they don't want to read.
Don't like someone, or don't want to read their posts, you have the option to put them on your ignore list, or, you can have a pointless, embarrassing multi page argument with them online for all to see, and probably get yourself on somebody elses ignore list.
Members can work towards turning the forum in to a nice place to hang out, and share their love of the game, or they can work against it, and drag the forum down with constant arguments. It takes two people to have an argument.