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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 09-14-2012, 10:38 PM
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Finally I'm out. Tschüss 1C ich bin draußen...
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Old 09-14-2012, 10:43 PM
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Old 09-14-2012, 10:37 PM
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I’m sure most of you will agree that we have already supported our release more than perhaps any other developer in a similar situation. Most of you have probably guessed that Cliffs of Dover was not exactly the most profitable project in the world, and for at least the past year supporting it did nothing for the bottom line but put it deeper into the red.
Is this serious? Support? Where was it? All I got was improved engine sounds (not bad, to be fair), new tracers and some CTRL-C; CTRL-V plane versions (with totally messed-up FMs). I wouldn't call that support. Support is defined as straightening out, and probably bring in minor new stuff into, a finished game.

As for the less-than-stellar profits on CoD: Do you really, really not understand why? Really?
Many gaming magazines even refused to test CoD due to its alpha state and postponed it to a later time. And because nothing improved in CoD, that later time never came. Not a good advertisement for the product, don't you think?
A blind man can see that such a sorry game won't attract many buyers. I firmly believe the game could've gotten its "second wind", were all of its issues fixed, but now, that opportunity is gone... again.

And to declare the next patch the "final patch" is the last brick in the 'fail building'. Everyone and their grandparents knows that this patch will do nothing, as all those before. So, those who urge to wait for the patch before starting another round of complaints: Why not just start now?

I just hope that you can survive on the 500-or-so copies that BoM will sell, to the die-hard fans and to the unwitting (which should be rare, since they need to have CoD first)...

P.S.: What's the matter with all that talk about an MMO? Was this ever mentioned somewhere? AFAIR, it was just an idea thrown in by someone for that "big thing that no one else has" - and it swirls around for many months now. Which is almost as baffling as CoD itself, given that those speculations about an MMO mostly come from the die-hards

P.P.S.:I just can't fix the ATI-bug on 1946, otherwise, I wouldn't have bothered for so long
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Old 09-15-2012, 09:06 AM
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I’m sure most of you will agree that we have already supported our release more than perhaps any other developer in a similar situation.
And could you agree that Clod was released in far more unfinished state than perhaps any other title? A rip-off, pure and simple, screw your sequels.
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Old 09-15-2012, 01:14 PM
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"Are we happy with that? No. But we simply cannot continue to support and grow Cliffs of Dover while also trying to ensure our sequels are released on time and are sufficiently polished. I’m sure most of you will agree that we have already supported our release more than perhaps any other developer in a similar situation. Most of you have probably guessed that Cliffs of Dover was not exactly the most profitable project in the world, and for at least the past year supporting it did nothing for the bottom line but put it deeper into the red."


All that is your problem. What about my $50 for CoD you took and never delivered on?

And NO a half-baked sim is not what I thought I was buying. And YOU KNEW THAT.
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Old 09-15-2012, 01:22 PM
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"Are we happy with that? No. But we simply cannot continue to support and grow Cliffs of Dover while also trying to ensure our sequels are released on time and are sufficiently polished. I’m sure most of you will agree that we have already supported our release more than perhaps any other developer in a similar situation. Most of you have probably guessed that Cliffs of Dover was not exactly the most profitable project in the world, and for at least the past year supporting it did nothing for the bottom line but put it deeper into the red."
the thing i find wonderfull is the fact that Luthier considering that support/fix a game during one years because it was not finished at all is something incredible.... and stop working on it event it is not finish to be fix is normal....

i still hope that the sequel will be good and that a lot of fix and adding feature be present.... but how can i trust a man who said that kind of thing?

when i read him...finally i must admit that i will have to pay two time for a game with no garantee that it will be the product that i paid for.... sorry no! i can't.

but to be honest... i think that if the sequel is good and if it is a real BIG step forward i could forgive everything.

but if this sequel is another deception....il2 ils dead for ever... and i won't be the only one to forget this game if this happend.

i just hope that when the sequel will be release....the nighmare will be over.
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Old 09-15-2012, 01:40 PM
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I speak as a member of an important squad network, = GRij =, and COD today is no competitor for IL2 Sturmovik

1 - No support independent from the world of mods

2 - No support for SEOW, this is an external problem for 1c, but it is what gives life to IL2 Sturmovik

3 - IL2 Sturmovik is a finished product with a very demanding fans, who do not accept a game unfinished and sequels before fix bugs

For my part I will not buy the sequel until proven 1c not worth spending more money on this game


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hablo como miembro de un escuadron importante en la red, =gRiJ= , y el COD a día de hoy no es competidor para el il2 sturmovik

1º- No tiene soporte independiente desde el mundo de los mods

2º- No tiene soporte para SEOW, esto es un problema externo para 1c, pero es lo que le da vida al il2 sturmovik

3º- Il2 sturmovik es un producto acabado y con unos seguidores muy exigente, que no aceptan un juego inacabado y secuelas antes de arreglar los fallos

por mi parte no voy a comprar la secuela hasta que 1c no demuestre que merece la pena gastar mas dinero en este juego
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Old 09-15-2012, 01:56 PM
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Actually, the only fair thing to do is to give CoD customers a free Sequel game, asuming they will accept it.

I do not consider Luthier fixing his bad product to be "wonderful". More like "expected".

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Old 09-15-2012, 02:00 PM
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Wont happen reb. They need the sales money to fund development. This is why they working on sequel instead of 100% on clod fixes. Pretty obvious really.
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Old 09-15-2012, 02:11 PM
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macro -

Yep.

I have noticed that companies that carry their poor financial standing to the marketplace for a cure usually fail.
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