Friday the 14th Development Update

[salmo]

Originally Posted by mcFly

What i like most are the delays for everything, even the promised answers in the evening are still not here, or don't i just see them?

Nothing new here. We were asked to post questions for Ilya, and he posted in his "update" that he would be back tonight to answer the questions posed to him. Result = he's not back, no answers to questions, more broken promises. To be quite frank, I've given up believing anything he states in his announcements/reports.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by ChicoMick

What I don't understand is this. If the Sequel has the power to 'update/fix' clod in the future then why can't those fixes still be available as 'stand alone' patches? ie without the BoM maps missions and planes ? Then we can decide whether we want the sequel or not.

I don't especially want to fight on the russian front.

I guess this doesn't fit the business plan.....

looking at your pc spec list in your sig, is it really so heart wrenching to pay another 20$ for BoM later on so you later can get some further improvements for the BoB theater ? it obviously wasnt a deliberate cunning plan to release CoD unfinished, it was the forced premature birth of a very visionary advanced flight simulator that will take our old il2 dreams to a completely new level. the only other alternative would have been to close down the whole project and release NOTHING !! (there are some people here in this forum with a low attention spans and a failure to comprehend more complex concepts, and they seem to think there was some magic 3e option of receiving a perfect and completed sim in mid 2011)

was it frustrating to have to wait another 18 months and in the meanwhile just have some "beta product" to toy around with ? yeps ! but nope, i aint traumatized by it. meanwhile the globe keeps spinning, the shysters that caused the 2008 financial crash are still laughing all the way to the bank that they got away with plundering our coffers (and succeeded in killing off the american empire in the same process), the ice cap keeps melting further and is now expected to be completely gone in summer by 2022, and hoards of illegal economic migrants are still hopping over the fence unchallenged to come and eat up your meager pension funds and clog your healthcare system.

get a sense of perspective while the rest of the world is on a highway to hell, giving 20 or 30$ to 1C for them to keep building the sim of our dreams should be something we do willingly

[furbs]

What amazes me is, why some people think BOM is going to be any better than COD.

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by furbs

What amazes me is, why some people think BOM is going to be any better than COD.

It amazes me that your still here if you really think that...

[Baron]

This RC patch better be the moder of all patches.

Notice how the "when" for the patch is carefully avoided.

I mean, what does this even mean "The general plan is, after the milestone is submitted and accepted, we return to the now almost-final patch, cram as much as we can into it, and make it our final Cliffs of Dover patch"

Milestone? Submitted and accepted? Now almost-final patch? (All my questionmarks is related to timelines)


Politicians spring to mind.


I still cling to my prediction that this patch will get here late october, in a perfect world, or mid december, in 1C world.

[Vittuuntunut]

It´s amazing with how little you can keep desperate simmers happy .

I felt pretty pissed after I bought CLOD and stopped patching it as soon as it became evident it´s not getting any better (that is: decent, compareable to other sims). I whined my dissapointment here a couple of times, but then quit writing and just lurked around.

And I can say it has been worth of 50 €.

This project, it´s lack of progress, it´s clear misleading of customers and this forum with it´s militant fan-boys, desperate simmers and voices of reason (Tree_UK I´m your no.1 fan) are just amazing. Nothing compares to this! I would have missed all this haven´t I bought CLOD (forum experience is not the same if you don´t own the product).

Now the most interesting part seems to have come to its end, since we (or you who are installing it) are only getting one final patch, which of course will repair next to nothing.

BTW, speaking about the latest update, do you really think that the sequel will update CLOD? It surely won´t.

My bet is that at some point of 2018 they´ll inform their "loyal customers" that code has changed so much, there is no chance of interating it with CLOD.

I have no hard feelings for Luthier & co. for taking my money (after all it´s not that much), I´ve even come over the feeling of getting cheated (that was much harder to do). I hope that they have learned their lesson and their next project will be succesfull (though I´m not parting with my money before some in-depth reviews).

[furbs]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

It amazes me that your still here if you really think that...

Because Smigel, im still hoping that one day after 8 years of waiting they manage to finally get something right.

[charlie19]

An utter disgrace. To assume I am going to spend money on more products from a company that can only offer empty promises is laughable. Why the hell should we believe your next project/sequel/test to see what people will put up with, will be any better? A company that cannot deliver should not be in business at all.

Goodbye 1C.

[Matt255]

I’m sure most of you will agree that we have already supported our release more than perhaps any other developer in a similar situation.

It's not like you didn't have to...

I don't mind it that much. I think all this brabble about people feeling cheated for their ~50 €/$/£ (i myself paid half of that at release, but whatever) and posting that for over a year straight and still visiting these forums every day is also not really unamusing.

However, i sure hope that BoM will still be a massive improvement over the current CloD state (with beta patch), because i doubt many people will make the mistake of buying a 1c flightsim prematurely twice. And i doubt that BoM will have the same "support" if people don't buy it, because people post here that it's in alpha state and after BoM, i can't see another sequel that would have a similar potential as BoM or CloD.

[J.Reb]

"Are we happy with that? No. But we simply cannot continue to support and grow Cliffs of Dover while also trying to ensure our sequels are released on time and are sufficiently polished. I’m sure most of you will agree that we have already supported our release more than perhaps any other developer in a similar situation. Most of you have probably guessed that Cliffs of Dover was not exactly the most profitable project in the world, and for at least the past year supporting it did nothing for the bottom line but put it deeper into the red."


All that is your problem. What about my $50 for CoD you took and never delivered on?

And NO a half-baked sim is not what I thought I was buying. And YOU KNEW THAT.