4.09 interviews

[Furio]

Originally Posted by SaQSoN

Ehm?.. Posting on modder's forums makes one a modder automatically?

It looks like the ban on talking about mods has been lifted... a little. Let’s be careful! In my opinion “modder” is not a bad word in itself. The difference is between legitimate and non-legitimate mods. Regardless of the quality of a mod, it is legitimate only when the intellectual property owner declares his consensus. In my opinion...

[Furio]

Originally Posted by SaQSoN

The answer is the most simple: because any of those "great" modders wasn't able to produce a fully complete product, which won't require thorough testing and fixing by 1C.
The Daidalos Team managed to do so, however.

It makes sense to me. The ability to organize a group big enough to tackle the job was no small feat in itself. But I think that a second factor could have played a role, and was the willingness to adhere to Oleg’s standards and preferences.
So, it looks that there is hope for anything... including an official 6DOF.

[Oktoberfest]

And what about an official FW190 "bar fix" ? Because IMO this was the BEST thing mods brought to the sim .

[SaQSoN]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

It's just the way they add things that changed, one is unofficial, the other has a stamp of approval from the original development team.

No, it's not. Because a stamp of approval is not given just for nothing. As in any other industry, it's given for quality and following certain technical standards.

In a simple words, what would you choose (for the same price): a car modified by, say, Brabus, or the same car modified by some greasy guy from a garage next door?

Certainly, there is a small probability, that this greasy guy can do things as good as an "official" industry, but in this case, he usually would turn into something like Brabus very soon.

So, something like this happened to the DT. Unfortunately, there is no one in the modder community, who could reach their level so far.

[Bulgarian]

Originally Posted by Oktoberfest

And what about an official FW190 "bar fix" ?

It's being considered for the next patches.

[JG27CaptStubing]

Originally Posted by Furio

Following your logic, some questions come to mind.
Why Oleg and 1C refuse so adamantly to correct so obvious mistakes?
Are they evil men? Are they simply stubborn and stupid? Do they want to spoil our gaming?

Pretty simple... Oleg and 1C Are a Game Development Company and a Publisher. They make money selling SKUs at a store and they sell entertainment software.

The point you're missing is that they focused on adding new things to the sim such as new airplanes new objects etc etc. But what they failed to do was address some nagging issues that still plague 4.08 today. I mentioned only a few above. At some point a developer has to move on. Providing "free" updates isn't going to effect the bottom line. It's a simple and obvious business decision.

Where I find fault in it is that they had plenty of time to add something like 6DOF they said it couldn't be done to the quality standards they wanted because the cockpits wouldn't support it. Fact is it can be doneand it was done with no negative effects. How do you take that as a customer. Guess it depends on your priorities but that's a different discussion.

The simple fact is that many things could have been addressed but they were too busy adding more stuff which in turn continued to add more problems. They ignored the community even when the help was offered for FREE by Natural Point.

Originally Posted by Furio

Why Oleg and 1C choose Daidalus instead of those great modders?
Apparently, Daidalus people hadn’t any problems in contacting Oleg, make their proposals and reach an agreement with him. What prevented modders to propose better solutions, including 6DOF and other magic?
I stop here, because, to use Nearmiss words “Discussion about, referrals and links to mods or MODs site is prohibited in this site”. But an uncomfortable feeling remains that the real aim of all those harsh words – deliberately harsh – is simply to diminish the work of Daidalus people.

I can't comment on your first questions because like you I would only be guessing at this point. In terms of harsh words it is what it is...

[JG27CaptStubing]

Originally Posted by SaQSoN

The answer is the most simple: because any of those "great" modders wasn't able to produce a fully complete product, which won't require thorough testing and fixing by 1C.
The Daidalos Team managed to do so, however.

What product do you speak of? The modders is just a mob of people making changes and additions to the game.

Funny enough testing is happening and it's been coordinated by the AAA folks.

[JG27CaptStubing]

Originally Posted by Furio

To me, this makes a HUGE difference, being respectful of intellectual property.

And now your agenda is clear... It seems everyone has an axe to grind

[Eries]

Originally Posted by JG27CaptStubing

And now your agenda is clear... It seems everyone has an axe to grind

Talk about axe to grind.......you've obviously come here to do nothing more than that.

Your obvious frustration and lack of respect for 1C and thier team had made me wonder why you even come to these forums. But after a few posts by you I started to catch on.

My humble opinion is that you are dissed modder who is unhappy that 1C isnt a slave to your personal vision and/or you feel slighted that you didnt make it on the Daedalous ( sp?) Team.

It seems the 1C forums isnt a place for you. It'd be in everyones interest if you just ran along. Thats now my obvious agenda, and I'm certainly proud of it.

My apologies to the moderators here for my frank talk. Thanks

- Eries

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by JG27CaptStubing

Pretty simple... Oleg and 1C Are a Game Development Company and a Publisher. They make money selling SKUs at a store and they sell entertainment software.

The point you're missing is that they focused on adding new things to the sim such as new airplanes new objects etc etc. But what they failed to do was address some nagging issues that still plague 4.08 today. I mentioned only a few above. At some point a developer has to move on. Providing "free" updates isn't going to effect the bottom line. It's a simple and obvious business decision.

Where I find fault in it is that they had plenty of time to add something like 6DOF they said it couldn't be done to the quality standards they wanted because the cockpits wouldn't support it. Fact is it can be doneand it was done with no negative effects. How do you take that as a customer. Guess it depends on your priorities but that's a different discussion.

The simple fact is that many things could have been addressed but they were too busy adding more stuff which in turn continued to add more problems. They ignored the community even when the help was offered for FREE by Natural Point.




I can't comment on your first questions because like you I would only be guessing at this point. In terms of harsh words it is what it is...

Absolute rubbish

Oleg actually said they didn't have the time/resources/money to redo all the cockpits in IL2 for 6dof to their standards and keep his cockpits integrity in place, as TIR isn't strapped to every single persons head who buys the game and isn't a cast in stone requirement it makes sense not to re build every single pit in the game for a minority TIR users who admit themselves its not essential.

As an SoW requirement then yes its essential, only as as a marketing point as its something else that helps sell the game.