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View Poll Results: Would you sacrifice small graphical issues in order to be able to use 6-DoF
Yes I could cope with this as it would add to my flying experience 270 85.44%
No, I'd rather have my head on a fixed stick thanks you very much 46 14.56%
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Old 02-21-2011, 09:58 PM
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Thats not a bad idea!
Not sure if its technically possible and the kind of penalty, if you do maneuvres without fastened strapping is also a very unsure question, but definitly a step in the right direction.

BTW: Does anyone know, if it was possible for the pilot to loosen seatbelts after he ones fastened them? Or was it as easy to do it and vice versa as a push onto a keyboard?
This is already implemented in COD. If you loosen the straps you have more freedom for your 6DOF but the penalty is your view gets slammed around in violent manoeuvres.
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Old 02-21-2011, 10:04 PM
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This is already implemented in COD. If you loosen the straps you have more freedom for your 6DOF but the penalty is your view gets slammed around in violent manoeuvres.
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=18722
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Old 02-21-2011, 10:13 PM
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I don't get what you are trying to say here, you've linked back to the same thread?

If you are trying to point out that we aren't discussing COD, yes I'm aware of that. It was just that EJGr.Ost_Caspar seemed to think it was a new idea and I was just pointing out that this has already built into COD.
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Old 02-21-2011, 10:22 PM
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No, I am not using the phrase in the way that you have described and nor would I take such a patronising presumptive attitude to other peoples opinions.

However that seems to be a common attitude on this forum

TD, in my opinion (and where I live we are still allowed to have those (England btw)) is modding IL-2 to an agenda driven by those players that only fly Blue \ LW.

Again ...my OPINION ... is that ok?
Well t-man, you know the saying about opinions?
They are like a**holes, everybody has one, and nobody wants to see the other ones!
Having said that, i'd like to mention that your opinion seem very unique, as it isn't shared by anyone so far.
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Old 02-21-2011, 10:52 PM
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Thank you for your appreciation of the right to free speech ..
I am expressing my opinion and supporting it with facts.
I am sorry you do not like that.

Maybe you are the one in need of a long walk?
No mate, MY opinion is that your attitude is offensive, infantile and degrading to all of us here by association, and therefore I'd rather not be seen to in anyway condone it, or you.

If it's not too much for your intellect to grasp I'll let you in on a secret; some of us fly without some ridiculous agenda and simply want this sim to be as accurate as it can be within the engine limitations. And having been in PM contact with two of the TD team and communicated via posts with 2 others, I can tell you they make damn sight more sense than you, and are considerably better mannered. But hell, guess you're the type who's got his way bullying and shouting and tirading his way through life huh? Won't cut the mustard here chum.

And facts?! I saw bugger all in the way of anything remotely factual in your post. In fact it looked remarkably like ill-informed conspiracy driven bluster to me, but hell, perhaps I'm wrong. Please do enlighten me.
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Old 02-21-2011, 11:27 PM
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I'm just asking if this option could ever be considered for a future patch, if the community could forgive slight issues with graphics sometimes not being perfect?

Currently there are many switches available for options to be turned on and off in the game and I wonder if it would be possible to add a switch enabling 6-DoF, thereby giving the user the option of whether they want to choose the 6-DoF option and maybe put up with a few minor Graphic issues, or whether they leave the switch off and then keep the POV as it currently is?

I'm only putting out there the consideration that 6-DoF is possible, but there may be the occasional Graphics issue that I can appreciate the absolute purists will want, but some of us actually enjoy the experience of flying an aircraft and to have a choice for the User of the Sim to switch it on or off would be IMHO a welcome offering in a future patch?

Look here as-well to see Bearcat's post at the Ubi Forums;

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=t...119#4521074119
I just signed up for the 1c Forms after 10 years of playing IL2 just to vote for this. When all the work was done for free from Natural Point and all you needed to do is lock down the head movement in the game.... why again did it take a MOD.. " hack " to make this work and its never been official added to the game? I have 6DoF in my Racing games and they are not 1/3 as great as IL2.
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Old 02-21-2011, 11:33 PM
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Let him do, Fenrir... there is no thing more worse than being wrong and not knowing it.

@xnomad: No, I don't think the idea is that new (although I didn't know that about CoD) - anyone creative in flight sims can have it. I just pointed out, that the approach is better than the choises of the poll and is better displaying, in which direction DT thinks, when it come to solving problems.
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Old 02-21-2011, 11:38 PM
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I just signed up for the 1c Forms after 10 years of playing IL2 just to vote for this. When all the work was done for free from Natural Point and all you needed to do is lock down the head movement in the game.... why ... its never been official added to the game?
I don't know. Just guessing: because the game is old, so old, that in the beginning it wasn't planed to support 6DoF (as this was new hitech back then) and Olegs pretension was, that it now would need a huge rework of all old content at a point, when he rather wanted to switch to the next project instead. So it never happend officially. Yet.

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Old 02-22-2011, 07:13 AM
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Hell, CoD:IL-2 will have 6DoF, and 6DoF is achieveable with some mods already so I don't really care really. I vote that DT downgrade the orginal IL-2 to NES 8bit quality. I bet the nay sayers would just thrive in a 8 bit environment. Heck, remove all support for stick use and limit the game to a two button control interface with a d-pad only and make it platform based. That should satisfy the 15%.
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:28 AM
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So it never happened officially. Yet.
Caspar, that is one of the most exciting things I have read in this whole thread..."Yet".

My fingers are crossed that at-least TD could offer us a switch in the settings will give the user the option to enable it.....

You may not have said much, but my wife once said "It may be small.......but it excites me!" Lol, cheers, MP
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