Polikarpov I-16 Stalling?

[Soviet Ace]

Originally Posted by M3-SRT8

I've never played any version of iL-2, but, I'm guessing the I-16 is unstable around all three axis. Probably very easy to spin.

LJB

Actually, under the right circumstances the I-16 was a good fighter. But the problems with it, were forward viewing, take-off, engine problems, and landing. Most of the pilots that flew the I-16, were killed while either taking off or landing.

[redtiger02]

You can't leave the throttle above 80% for any length of time, otherwise the engine will fry. The one mission where you are forced very much against your will to use the plane won't require any more than that. Just hang out a little west of the city, run the throttle at 80% and have at it. The I-16 won't take many hits, so unless you are an arcade playing weakling, be very cautious about your approach to the bombers. Should you use it in multi (Texroadkill), which you shouldn't (Texroadkill), the same rules apply (Texroadkill) and it will be annihilated by a Spitfire or any other decent plane in seconds (Texroadkill). But, that doesn't mean that you should constantly dive for the ground after taking a single hit from a Spit IX to exploit the "no dumbass penalty" (Texroadkill), then blame it on the plane 6 hours later after an entire room has called you on it and it was pretty obvious you were taking a dive (Texroadkill). Not naming any names, just saying it happens.

[fuzzychickens]

Originally Posted by redtiger02

You can't leave the throttle above 80% for any length of time, otherwise the engine will fry. The one mission where you are forced very much against your will to use the plane won't require any more than that. Just hang out a little west of the city, run the throttle at 80% and have at it. The I-16 won't take many hits, so unless you are an arcade playing weakling, be very cautious about your approach to the bombers. Should you use it in multi (Texroadkill), which you shouldn't (Texroadkill), the same rules apply (Texroadkill) and it will be annihilated by a Spitfire or any other decent plane in seconds (Texroadkill). But, that doesn't mean that you should constantly dive for the ground after taking a single hit from a Spit IX to exploit the "no dumbass penalty" (Texroadkill), then blame it on the plane 6 hours later after an entire room has called you on it and it was pretty obvious you were taking a dive (Texroadkill). Not naming any names, just saying it happens.

So you watch much Saturday Night Live? Who was that guy anyways who did that skit?

[LaRock O no Lie]

Originally Posted by redtiger02

You can't leave the throttle above 80% for any length of time, otherwise the engine will fry. The one mission where you are forced very much against your will to use the plane won't require any more than that. Just hang out a little west of the city, run the throttle at 80% and have at it. The I-16 won't take many hits, so unless you are an arcade playing weakling, be very cautious about your approach to the bombers. Should you use it in multi (Texroadkill), which you shouldn't (Texroadkill), the same rules apply (Texroadkill) and it will be annihilated by a Spitfire or any other decent plane in seconds (Texroadkill). But, that doesn't mean that you should constantly dive for the ground after taking a single hit from a Spit IX to exploit the "no dumbass penalty" (Texroadkill), then blame it on the plane 6 hours later after an entire room has called you on it and it was pretty obvious you were taking a dive (Texroadkill). Not naming any names, just saying it happens.

I am commenting on the bold part of my quote...

First off, using arcade mode doesn't mean your weak... people like you are a dime a dozen... you think your hot shit and your calling out someone on forums like a little schoolgirl... get a life please... some people don't have alot of flying experience, and it is multiplied on a console, because of the horrid flight controls on the controller.

Not naming names huh? people like you should stop bitching since its only been a few days that the game is out... Rest assured anton and the crew will fix the issue of not getting the kill for a plane intentionally crashing or bailing out after a few hits...

If I remember my history.. pilots got credit for a kill if they damaged a plane enough to make the pilot eject...

sorry for the hostility, but your the one being a troll and calling out someone when they most likely have no clue about this forum and you taling your junk.

thanks.

oh and hopefully any real pilots that read this will watch out for you and if they see you hopefully they can pick said plan and teach you that its not always the plane that is the factor in a kill, but the PILOT!!!!! I know of many ACE's from ww2 that did not have the best plane but were able to use their skills and knowledge of the plane to great effect...

unfortunately the moderators on this forum are not around, because if I was a mod, your be getting a ban hammer to the head for being a troll.

but thats just me... I hate pompous idiots that think they are the best at anything.

[MadMel69]

Thanks for the info in these posts, I have only just got on the game and was enjoying it until this plane popped up.
I had wondered about altitude but had stalled quite low down, then considered too steep a climb, but still my engine died. I had used WEP but stopped. The 80% throttle limit will be tried tonight.
I tried to restart the engine with a fantastic dive, which resulted in a really quick death

[browntrout79]

I can confirm the neg-g engine problems with the I-16. I use it in m.p. and this has happned to me as well. Although once just 1/2 a sec after respawn with no control imput yet....... (I'll chalk that one up to faulty ground mechanic!! ha ha...) Is their any other early war carb aircraft we can test the theory of the neg-g with?? Some one mentioned a Spit that was carb....

To the person above who was calling Tex out about using the I-16. It has been stated before that Win or Loss is more dependent on the quality of PILOT than of AIRCRAFT. That said, Look me up in M.P. I'll show you what the I-16 can really do, and give you a really good look of how it looks in your mirror.

[Soviet Ace]

Originally Posted by browntrout79

I can confirm the neg-g engine problems with the I-16. I use it in m.p. and this has happned to me as well. Although once just 1/2 a sec after respawn with no control imput yet....... (I'll chalk that one up to faulty ground mechanic!! ha ha...) Is their any other early war carb aircraft we can test the theory of the neg-g with?? Some one mentioned a Spit that was carb....

To the person above who was calling Tex out about using the I-16. It has been stated before that Win or Loss is more dependent on the quality of PILOT than of AIRCRAFT. That said, Look me up in M.P. I'll show you what the I-16 can really do, and give you a really good look of how it looks in your mirror.

Try the I-153 Chaika. If you don't already have it, do the second to last mission in Stalingrad, in Single Mission. That plane is easy to kill the engine.

And I'm glad to see I'm not the only person using the I-16 in multiplayer. I've had several successful kills with it, all confirmed with the little confirmation sign thing? It is a great plane to fly, if you know how. It's no Yak-3, but turning it sure does come close

[trk29]

Originally Posted by Soviet Ace

Try the I-153 Chaika. If you don't already have it, do the second to last mission in Stalingrad, in Single Mission. That plane is easy to kill the engine.

And I'm glad to see I'm not the only person using the I-16 in multiplayer. I've had several successful kills with it, all confirmed with the little confirmation sign thing? It is a great plane to fly, if you know how. It's no Yak-3, but turning it sure does come close

Yes this plane is quite nimble but it shakes like crazy when firing those huge guns, I found it best to fire quick short bursts when chasing a 109.

[browntrout79]

Originally Posted by Soviet Ace

Try the I-153 Chaika. If you don't already have it, do the second to last mission in Stalingrad, in Single Mission. That plane is easy to kill the engine.

And I'm glad to see I'm not the only person using the I-16 in multiplayer. I've had several successful kills with it, all confirmed with the little confirmation sign thing? It is a great plane to fly, if you know how. It's no Yak-3, but turning it sure does come close

You should send me a F.R. on xbox live, Browntrout79. We can team up with our "little puny soviet bees." and really show them 109's. Just dont get shot, She DOES NOT take bullets well.
"Careful Ryan, Some things in here dont react well to bullets..." Movie quote...

Thanks for the tip on the 153, I'll try that tommorow.

[H Lecter]

Oh yes - that I-16 is a beast to fly. WEP can only be sustained for a very tiny amount of time, much less than any other plane in this (wonderful) game.

The engine died 5 or 6 times during that one mission, but it was a pleasure to emergency land as this plane would not flip over during landings. When diving down while pulling the throttle back and pushing it to 100% again, I even managed to get the engine on again, but somehow it must have been disconnected from the prop. I definitely heard engine sounds again but it stopped turning once I pulled up from my dive.