Battle against Karador on impossible

[Metathron]

I know most of those things, but putting them into practice all at once is another thing.

I gave up on this game, Karador is just too frustrating on impossible.

Unless you'd like to win it for me, Vilk.

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I did this battle with no losses easily (I did try earlier though and got PWNed when I was not high level enough...)

Key point is Karador here, not his units. His spells, especially Hypnotize and his damaging spells (Ice Snakes) can do a helluva lot of damage to you.

There is an easy way to solve this. Right away from first round, try to concentrate on killing a single stack ASAP. His few Bone Dragons are ideal for this. If Karador has a dead stack, and he will always act first thanks to his Necromancers, he will ALWAYS use Necro Call to raise them. Good thing? Yes, because the raised stack won't attack that round. You can re-kill it and Karador will raise that stack next round too... Ensuring he never casts troublesome spells (and he has a boatload of mana to do that for a looong time).

Just ensure that actually dangerous stacks (Death Knights, Skelly Archers) stay dead, IE have someone stand on them, or, way better, put a Totem on them with your Shamans.

Also: do not use archers in this battle. Most of Karadors troops have resistance to many forms of ranged attacks (Bone Dragons and Skeletons only take 1/3 damage from ANY ranged attack, Necromancers are resistant to Magic ranged attacks, Death Knights have 30% physical resistance).

My troops used for this battle were: Royal Snakes (augmented with snake Ring they can take out even undead easily), Griffins (aka your punching bags, use them to hold back all melee units), Black Dragons (no comment needed), Shamans (for unit healing/magic damage and defense/offense/dead stack pinning with totems). I normally use Evil Beholders for the 5th stack, but they are useless against undead, so I switched to Black Unicorns, very potent against undead.

Also one useful tip. Use Ice Crystals in the first round. This gives you time before Karador's melee troops close in - you only need to deal with the Bone dragons (I usually let the spiders in 'cause they are easy to kill). The Necromancers will cast plague and magic lock in the first rounds, so you don't have to worry. And Death Knights for some reason LOVE to attack the Ice Shards - it brings their damage to the max fast, I guess, but this meant for me that it was about Round 5 by the time I had to deal with them.

Also - blind the Skeleton archers first round. They represent the most danger.

After you killed all of Karador's troop, it's easy, but tedious resurrection time. Simply stand away from a corpse (spiders are preferred), let the crystal resurrect it, then use "Rage Taking" on it. From the accumulated Rage, use Lina's chargers! Slow, but works. I finished with no losses.

[iregev]

no Inquistors ?

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Originally Posted by iregev

no Inquistors ?

The Skeleton Archers, and even the Bone Dragons LOVE picking on them, and they die easily.

Plus, calculate: Dragons and Skellies only take 1/3 damage from ranged attacks (and that only if they are in full range). Even inquisitor's 200% damage means 2/3 of the normal damage... Not worth it. Heavy melee is much more usefull for this battle.

Oh and... use the Silver Sword if you have it. In some games you can find a recipe in the Marhsan Swamp graves, if you take it to the Mage School in Verlon Forest, they can make it for you. No attack bonus, but +30% damage agains Undead is pretty good. I also used anti-undead items like the paladin Shield and the Silver Cord that give additional defense against Undead - they still hit hard, but it helps.

[Razorflame]

wouldn't it be easier to use

royal thorns/thorn warriors/thorn hunters/dryads/necromancers?

first turn kill something

raise dead with necro and keep spawning those warriors/hunters ^^

use sacrifice on the summoned units to reraise the rest of your units ^^

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Originally Posted by Razorflame

wouldn't it be easier to use

royal thorns/thorn warriors/thorn hunters/dryads/necromancers?

first turn kill something

raise dead with necro and keep spawning those warriors/hunters ^^

use sacrifice on the summoned units to reraise the rest of your units ^^

Umm, Dryads would be useless for this battle, they cannot put undead to sleep (and that's their greatest asset).

Thorns are frankly, very weak units. I doubt they would stand against Black Knights for long. You need tough melee units for that. Plus plants cannot be resurrected in any way, that's why I never use them - hard to prevent losses.

One more thing to keep in mind - apart from the necros (who'll be busy casting spells anyway) and the negligible bone dragons, all of Karador's units do physical damage only. So it might be a good idea to stack up on physical resistance-items, or use Stone skin or God Armor.

[Razorflame]

true indeed

but wouldn't it be better to use demons instead of griffins?(assuming u want to have to always retaliation ability for a tank)

an black dragons are also hard to keep alive(unless u got time back ready they die rather easy) and can't use spells on them


i would do it with emerald ones

their mana drain ability can be very helpful ^^