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Old 08-15-2009, 02:42 AM
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That could be fun. Maybe have the Macchi 202's go up against some "Hurricane MkIIc's"? Something like that would be interesting.
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Old 08-15-2009, 02:49 AM
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Wasn't the Mkllc the one with the samll amount of ammo that could obliterate a plane in a short burst? I know there was a version of Hurricane with quite powerful cannon on it...either way, Hurris vs. Macchis or Fiats (maybe an Italian bomber) would be some DLC I would buy.
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Old 08-15-2009, 08:10 AM
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The Hurricane IIc has 4 20mm Hispano cannon. They are certainly one of the best, if not the best 20mm cannon around, and with four of them a fighter can be ripped apart almost instantly. None of the Italian aircraft listed there can match that sort of firepower, but the MC.205 Veltro is close with 2 20mm cannon (German MG 151s) and 2 12.7mm MGs, and the MC.205 has a lot more ammunition for these guns and is also around 50mph faster. The MC.202 Folgore would be a better match both for gameplay and historical reasons, and is 30mph faster than the Hurricane II and armed with 2 12.7mm MGs and 2 7.7mm MGs.

The MC.202 can be seen in the "Demo Trailer" on the IC website, and I'm sure it will feature in the Sicily campaign, though against Spitfire IXs and Mustang Is it will probably be rather outclassed.
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Old 08-15-2009, 08:25 AM
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The Hurricane IIc has 4 20mm Hispano cannon. They are certainly one of the best, if not the best 20mm cannon around, and with four of them a fighter can be ripped apart almost instantly. None of the Italian aircraft listed there can match that sort of firepower, but the MC.205 Veltro is close with 2 20mm cannon (German MG 151s) and 2 12.7mm MGs, and the MC.205 has a lot more ammunition for these guns and is also around 50mph faster. The MC.202 Folgore would be a better match both for gameplay and historical reasons, and is 30mph faster than the Hurricane II and armed with 2 12.7mm MGs and 2 7.7mm MGs.

The MC.202 can be seen in the "Demo Trailer" on the IC website, and I'm sure it will feature in the Sicily campaign, though against Spitfire IXs and Mustang Is it will probably be rather outclassed.

Although it outclassed the Hurricane, P40 and even the Spitfire Mk Vs.
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Old 08-15-2009, 08:43 AM
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Although it outclassed the Hurricane, P40 and even the Spitfire Mk Vs.
Hurricanes and P40s, yes, but against Spitfire Vs it would at best be an even fight and I would rather be flying the Spit in that confrontation.
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Old 08-15-2009, 06:53 PM
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Thought I'd just give you guys a quick little excerpt. I was lucky enough to find it off Wikipedia, but it's the same as in my book, so it's reliable. Check it out.

"On my first combat, the 9 of July, I attacked the leader of a Squadriglia of Falcos, while Flt Lt George Burges attacked a S.79 bomber. When I shot the CR.42 at a range of 100 yards, he did a flick-roll and went spinning down. I found myself engaged in dogfighting with the remaining CR.42s. This went down to about 10,000 ft; by then I had used up all my ammunition without much success, although I am convinced I got quite a few strikes on the leader in the initial combat. I realized pretty quickly that dogfighting with biplanes was just not on. They were so manoeuvrable that it was very difficult to get in a shot, and I had to keep diving and turning to keep myself from being shot down. George had by this time disappeared so I stuck my nose down and, with full throttle, was very thankful to get out of the way."

-Plt Off Jock Barber

Just an example of the Fiat CR.42 in action.

Also, I'm going to say that at Medium altitudes, the Macchi MC.202 could take on the Spitfire Mk.V in a successful dogfight. I'll try and find that account as well.
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Old 08-15-2009, 08:48 PM
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I love the little Macchi, I think its a really beautiful fighter. And how do we know its an Mc 202? I betcha its a 205. I hope they've rendered a cockpit for it, I'd like to mix it with some spits online in a Macchi, and I too would gladly pay for an italian dlc. Woohoo!
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