No Saitek 360 AV8R-2 Stick & No German Cockpits for this Game...

[HauptmannMolders]

OK now this is a problem, I've been willing to let a lot of stuff go and was shocked to hear they use a P-47 cockpit on the Mustang but NO German cockpits?!?! WTF! I've cancelled my preorder and I'll just wait to see what my friends games look like on line.

I realize they had a budget but to not have actual cockpits on a "simulation"? Frankly I'd like to hear from Anton on this one, will it be DLC? I know they are trying to appeal to a wider audience which I understand and support completely but it MUST also cater to the more dedicated player, we will be the ones telling all of our friends about this game.

[P-51]

Its not as bad as that.. there will be only a couple of craft with no cockpit - its been confirmed

[SeaCat]

I think people are taking this as there's no cockpit view... I have a feeling we'll just get rehashed allied cockpits. Not that big of a deal to me, even though I'll be mostly flying German planes.

[versapak]

Originally Posted by SeaCat

I think people are taking this as there's no cockpit view... I have a feeling we'll just get rehashed allied cockpits. Not that big of a deal to me, even though I'll be mostly flying German planes.

Anton has already stated that there would indeed be planes that have no cockpit, and that you would have to use the virtual cockpit hud for those.




As for the original post, and the Aviator joystick...

How is it that some people can't figure these things out? If the fact that the demo doesn't give you a picture of the actual joystick confuses you, then worse comes to worse, how about you try just pressing the buttons. It takes all of 2 minutes (if even) to figure out what each one does, and the game plays great with both the aviator and ace edge.



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[fritzwendel]

Originally Posted by David603

Same. I have been flying 109s in Il2 for almost five years now, using the cockpit view only when fighting, and rarely flying anything else. So no cockpit, no purchase for me until this is fixed.

NO 109 COCKPIT?! WTF!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't know what to say; how can this game call itself a flight sim when the MOST POPULAR AXIS FIGHTER PLANE doesn't have a cockpit?

What's next? No P-51 cockpit? Wait, they already BOTCHED that one too....

Come on guys, I know it's a console game, BUT DETAILS MAKE OR BREAK A GREAT GAME FROM A GOOD ONE. Believe it or not, we are more than a bunch of mindless 14 year old kids who don't know the difference between an F-15 and the space shuttle.

[Swagger7]

Don't worry guys! It's been confirmed that only a few planes won't have cockpits & that German fighters WILL have them! Here's the text from the ustream discussion:

H_Lecter: is there a cockpit view for the german planes or not?
2:20 spunkyrakune: What game modes will be availaboe in MP?
2:20 elneilios84: will there be a flightstick bundle?
2:21 MARTIANS: do you have freeflight on all the maps?
2:21 danneale: Yes there is a cockpit view for German planes
2:21 H_Lecter: real or virtual cockpit..?
2:21 danneale: IN MP - Dogfight, team dogfight, strike, capture the airfield, up to 16 players
2:22 danneale: flightsticks are avilable, and supported... it will depend on individual retailers
2:22 Spotter5: Can we pilot the ME262 in multiplayer/singleplayer?
2:22 danneale: real cockpits
2:22 RawKryptonite: In ground strike, will each team be set to use a certain number of full sized bombers? assign player(s) to it? are there "slots" for bombers to fill so teams have equal number of them?
2:22 danneale: (almost every plane historically correct)
2:23 danneale: a couple without cockpit views
2:23 H_Lecter: *hugs mark and everyone else*
2:23 H_Lecter: it must be xmas, thanks guys!
2:23 elneilios84: that is very good news about real cockpits
2:23 Spotter5: is the DLC free or paid for?
2:24 danneale: RawKryptonite -yes you can assign players to it
2:24 elneilios84: is there a real first person view in gun turrets on bombers?
2:24 danneale: yes you can fly ME262 in MP
2:24 Spotter5: sweet!
2:24 RawKryptonite: re: Strike, so each team has to fill ___ (ex 2) bomber slots or something like that?
2:25 danneale: View for gun turrets is always 3rd person
2:26 RawKryptonite: MP Strike: do the base buildings respawn or are there a certain number to take out for a win? multiple areas?MP Strike: do the base buildings respawn or are there a certain number to take out?
2:26 danneale: RawKryptonite - No, in strike 1 player controls the plane (Flight, bombing, Turrets etc)
2:26 RawKryptonite: oops
2:27 RawKryptonite: no, I meant in game set up is there a required number of bombers. "each team must have ___ number of bombers flown"
2:27 danneale: DLC - plane and mission pack on 360 paid for, 800 points on 360.... on PS3 DLC combined into one pack also paid for... will be equivelent of 9.99 euros


Sounds definitive to me!

[trk29]

We know the stick will be supported and there will be cockpits

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