Over-revving the FW 190 D9 1945

[Woke Up Dead]

Thanks majorproblem, it's not a matter of solving a problem anymore, the solution is simply to reduce pitch manually. Now I'm just curious as to why it happens on this specific plane and not other similar ones, and is it supposed to happen on this is specific plane but not similar ones.

[RPS69]

Well, after you poted the track, I checked that version and the 1944.

I will tell you that both suffer the same problem, with just a little difference in time, because the 1945 go higher UI than the 1944 at the same speeds...

That in itself is plain wrong.

Also, I may tell you that MW50 is not doing it's job, and it's consumption needle it is not working, same as the vertical trim indicator.
Part of the job of the MW50 is cooling the engine. And that's not happening here even if you keep RPM's at 3000.

But that's an old bug that nobody will address. MW50 have got a very bad press.

BTW... don't overheat your engine when you are climbing, keep it at 90% as marked on the other 190 throttle where it says Steigen. It means climbing throttle position. Also try to climb at the speed where the ball is centered. You climb faster doing that. If you don't need to climb that fast, unless you fear becoming bored, also don't use MW50 while climbing and keep your engine safe. I did that, and it took me a little more while to seize the engine.
But it seized anyway.

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by RPS69

Well, after you poted the track, I checked that version and the 1944.

I will tell you that both suffer the same problem, with just a little difference in time, because the 1945 go higher UI than the 1944 at the same speeds...

That in itself is plain wrong.

Also, I may tell you that MW50 is not doing it's job, and it's consumption needle it is not working, same as the vertical trim indicator.
Part of the job of the MW50 is cooling the engine. And that's not happening here even if you keep RPM's at 3000.

But that's an old bug that nobody will address. MW50 have got a very bad press.

BTW... don't overheat your engine when you are climbing, keep it at 90% as marked on the other 190 throttle where it says Steigen. It means climbing throttle position. Also try to climb at the speed where the ball is centered. You climb faster doing that. If you don't need to climb that fast, unless you fear becoming bored, also don't use MW50 while climbing and keep your engine safe. I did that, and it took me a little more while to seize the engine.
But it seized anyway.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=30181

[majorfailure]

Originally Posted by RPS69

Well, after you poted the track, I checked that version and the 1944.

I will tell you that both suffer the same problem, with just a little difference in time, because the 1945 go higher UI than the 1944 at the same speeds...

That in itself is plain wrong.

Also, I may tell you that MW50 is not doing it's job, and it's consumption needle it is not working, same as the vertical trim indicator.
Part of the job of the MW50 is cooling the engine. And that's not happening here even if you keep RPM's at 3000.

But that's an old bug that nobody will address. MW50 have got a very bad press.

BTW... don't overheat your engine when you are climbing, keep it at 90% as marked on the other 190 throttle where it says Steigen. It means climbing throttle position. Also try to climb at the speed where the ball is centered. You climb faster doing that. If you don't need to climb that fast, unless you fear becoming bored, also don't use MW50 while climbing and keep your engine safe. I did that, and it took me a little more while to seize the engine.
But it seized anyway.

Cooling the charge is NOT equivalent to cooling the engine!
MW50 achieves more compression by not letting the fuel/air mixture detonate prematurely due to heating up under pressure.

[RPS69]

Read the technical part of the thread Alpha posted unto me.

It actually cools cylinders heads, not only the charge.
It is more a problem of high pressure than overheat alone.

People happen to forget that german pilots used MW50 to climb away from the likes of Yaks, Las and Spits. They were not forced to dive away from them when at high altitude. P47 and late war american planes were anoter thing.

[Woke Up Dead]

Originally Posted by RPS69

Well, after you poted the track, I checked that version and the 1944.

I will tell you that both suffer the same problem, with just a little difference in time, because the 1945 go higher UI than the 1944 at the same speeds...

That in itself is plain wrong.

Also, I may tell you that MW50 is not doing it's job, and it's consumption needle it is not working, same as the vertical trim indicator.
Part of the job of the MW50 is cooling the engine. And that's not happening here even if you keep RPM's at 3000.

But that's an old bug that nobody will address. MW50 have got a very bad press.

BTW... don't overheat your engine when you are climbing, keep it at 90% as marked on the other 190 throttle where it says Steigen. It means climbing throttle position. Also try to climb at the speed where the ball is centered. You climb faster doing that. If you don't need to climb that fast, unless you fear becoming bored, also don't use MW50 while climbing and keep your engine safe. I did that, and it took me a little more while to seize the engine.
But it seized anyway.

Thanks RPS69, what do you mean by "the 1945 go higher UI than the 1944 at the same speeds?"

Yeah, I wasn't climbing too carefully, I had time acceleration set to 8x. Interesting about the "Steigen" climbing speed.

[Derda508]

Sorry if I join here with a 'noobish' question, because I don´t fly these birds too often.
I tried to find out in the manuals, but could not find an answer. I remember that somebody in the thread linked above, once mentioned something like: "I turn on MW50 before engine start and then don´t touch it again." I also remember to have read that it should be turned on before you start the engine, because it only kicks in when you go full throttle. (which would make its use impossible for airstart missions). As far as I understand you talk here about turning MW50 on during flight. What´s the correct way?
And how can you override the Kommandogerät with manual prop pitch? If I try to do this in German planes just nothing happens.

Best,

DerDa

[RPS69]

It's the manifold pressure indicator. Check your own video, and do the same maneuver with the 1944. You reach the same speeds, which is ok, but with different UI vlues 1944 is lower.

From your initial post, I may tell you that both planes auto pitch management performs baddly. Use the manual pitch, as a workaround solution, and give thanks that it exists.

BTW... try to dive without putting thr throttle maxed after you reached 600Km/h. you will be surprised.

[Woke Up Dead]

Originally Posted by Derda508

Sorry if I join here with a 'noobish' question, because I don´t fly these birds too often.
I tried to find out in the manuals, but could not find an answer. I remember that somebody in the thread linked above, once mentioned something like: "I turn on MW50 before engine start and then don´t touch it again." I also remember to have read that it should be turned on before you start the engine, because it only kicks in when you go full throttle. (which would make its use impossible for airstart missions). As far as I understand you talk here about turning MW50 on during flight. What´s the correct way?
And how can you override the Kommandogerät with manual prop pitch? If I try to do this in German planes just nothing happens.

Best,

DerDa

It's OK to turn on MW50 when the engine is on already, but it has to be at low throttle and low RPM. I'm not sure how low exactly, but you will be OK if you reduce throttle to 0%, wait two or three seconds for the RPM to drop, then turn on MW50 and increase throttle.

There is a key for turning the automatic pitch control off and on in the game's Control section, it also works for turning off auto-pitch in late-war Spitfires. Read Bolelas's posts above about tapping they keys to reduce prop pitch even before you turn Kommandogerät off, otherwise pitch will be at 100% when you first set it to manual.

[Derda508]

Thanks a lot, Woke Up Dead!
I´ll give it a try as soon as I find time.