A very bad learning tool.....

[Woke Up Dead]

Originally Posted by Jumoschwanz

Yea, it would make sense that somebody doing something for a short time would be better at it than those who had done it for years, that is just the way the world works.

I am sure we would all like to see the stat page for this full-switch server you are at the top of......thanks in advance!

Who said I was doing it for a short time? I've been flying on various servers for years, on full-switch servers for the past year or so. Anyways, it's not about how long, but how often. On a crowded air-start easy setting server you can get into a fight every other minute or so. On the full-switch server I fly it takes 5-10 minutes just to takeoff and go to the target area, more if you also want to enter with good altitude and from an unexpected angle, and then you're not guaranteed to meet anyone there either.

I try not to obsess about my stats too much, so they're not that impressive; I fly fighters, bombers, ground attack, bomber support, help out team-mates in bad positions, etc, I take my lumps. But when I encounter an enemy on roughly even terms or at a small disadvantage I either win or successfully disengage nine times out of ten.

Here's my stats from when I started flying full-switch and flew the red site on Frontove Nebo, lost more than won initially, 50/50 more recently: http://www.il2.org.ru/war/pilot/wars?pilotid=45174

Switched to blue the last couple of months. Even though I rarely fly and don't know German planes that well, last war the only person to shoot me down was the top red pilot: http://www.il2.org.ru/war/pilot/wars?pilotid=46333. A 2.33 kill/death ratio in the most recent war (albeit a small sample), not bad seeing that only a third of those sorties were in a good fighter (109F4) while the rest were in bombers and older fighter planes: http://www.il2.org.ru/war/pilot/plan...&pilotid=46333. For comparison, your current ratio on Vinny Puh where you fly the 109G2 most of the time and fighters all of the time is about 0.7: http://212.192.155.118/index.php?nav...820/index.html.

I do alright despite all my really bad learning tools.

[RPS69]

Lol!!!

[Jumoschwanz]

Originally Posted by Woke Up Dead

Who said I was doing it for a short time? I've been flying on various servers for years, on full-switch servers for the past year or so..

And if you have been flying for "years", whatever that means and only worked your way up to full switch in the last year or so, it sort of proves my point, as if you had flown full switch from the start with your heavy schedule it would have only taken you weeks or months instead. That is why easy servers are as the title of this thread stated, "a very bad learning tool" for flying realistic settings compared to actually flying on realistic settings. You are the one who is proving the original point of this thread.

[Woke Up Dead]

Originally Posted by Jumoschwanz

And if you have been flying for "years", whatever that means and only worked your way up to full switch in the last year or so, it sort of proves my point, as if you had flown full switch from the start with your heavy schedule it would have only taken you weeks or months instead. That is why easy servers are as the title of this thread stated, "a very bad learning tool" for flying realistic settings compared to actually flying on realistic settings. You are the one who is proving the original point of this thread.

Years means years, what do you think it means? More than one, less than the 14 that this game has been out.

You think it could take anyone just "weeks or months" even to be regularly able to score more often than die in a full switch server? I haven't met anyone like that, not on the servers, nor anyone claiming that on any IL2 forums.

I get what you're saying, there are bad habits you can pick up in an easy setting server. I felt very claustrophobic the first time I flew online with my nose and cockpit blocking 60% of my view and with the F6 button not working. But those habits are easier to break than you make them out to be. On the other hand maneuvering, energy management, and most gunnery and tactics can be learned on the easier servers and those skills carry over to closed pit.

[Jumoschwanz]

Originally Posted by Woke Up Dead

Years means years, what do you think it means? More than one, less than the 14 that this game has been out.

You think it could take anyone just "weeks or months" even to be regularly able to score more often than die in a full switch server? I haven't met anyone like that,

I don't have to speak in generalities when I talk about myself because I have nothing to hide. I have been flying IL2 on realistic settings since 2001. I have also flown easy and normal settings server for many, many hours in the same time period so I have seen first hand what other pilots have been able, and not been able to do in that time period.

When your argument is simply "I haven't met anyone like that", then you have no argument at all because you have been flying realistic settings for less than one-tenth the time some have been flying them, and you were not flying those settings seven years ago when the most popular server with Realistic settings had over 1600 different pilots on it every single month.

Since MODS and HACKS divided the online community and destroyed the popularity and appeal of it, unfortunately no newer IL2 pilots will ever be able to have the experience that the golden-age of IL2 offered again. Sad....