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Old 10-01-2014, 07:28 PM
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I guess I would wonder why it would matter to be so picky with standards when the finished product works mostly, with a game that is dying out?
Because if you were the Captain of a proud Ship knowingly going into it's last battle, you would not lower standards. Your last battle is your legacy.
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Old 10-01-2014, 08:59 PM
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Because if you were the Captain of a proud Ship knowingly going into it's last battle, you would not lower standards. Your last battle is your legacy.
Who knows if it is really the last battle? There was one game to replace IL-2, and where is that game now?
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Old 10-01-2014, 11:41 PM
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Who knows if it is really the last battle? There was one game to replace IL-2, and where is that game now?
WhiskeyWhiskeys question was regarding 'standards':
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"I guess I would wonder why it would matter to be so picky with standards when the finished product works mostly, with a game that is dying out?"

The topic is:"IL2 Mod Makers and Daidalos should Unite"

I'm not being facetious, but where exactly are you going with this?
Maybe you want to start a new topic?
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Old 10-02-2014, 01:49 AM
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WhiskeyWhiskeys question was regarding 'standards':
Originally Posted by WhiskeyWhiskey

"I guess I would wonder why it would matter to be so picky with standards when the finished product works mostly, with a game that is dying out?"

The topic is:"IL2 Mod Makers and Daidalos should Unite"

I'm not being facetious, but where exactly are you going with this?
Maybe you want to start a new topic?

Dying out???? I have only had IL2 for 10 years It cant die out LOL
Lasted lounger then Cliffs of Dover And for Me 2 days after I purchased COD i learned that it was no lounger being supported by the developers. Team Daidalos and the modders are what keep us players interested.

To everyone working on IL2 From the TD Modders Map makers and skinners Thanks for all your hard work and dedication.
Your All the best
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Old 10-02-2014, 08:45 AM
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I guess I would wonder why it would matter to be so picky with standards when the finished product works mostly, with a game that is dying out?
It looks like Battle of Stalingrad will also be unable to replace IL-2.
Main strenght of good old IL-2 is that lots of people fly allied and even japanese planes. Where else do you find them other than in IL-2? CloD is dead, DCS:ww2 is still in deveopment (and will be for many years), and the older sims, like CFS3, well, better not speak of them.
And not only this. People who mainly like late german or soviet planes, BoS will still be a disappointment. Probably some Yak-9, La5, Bf-109G6+, Fw-190A4+ variants will be included later in the sim, but that will also take lots of time, and not in the same quantity as in IL-2. For people who like flying bombers (like me), IL-2 is still much better. Pe-8, Il-4, Ju-88, A-20, etc. will probably never make it to BoS.
And if TD eventually releases night fighters with working radars...
So while certainly lost some popularity, I would not call IL-2 dying out.
TD is the main reason why IL-2 is still lives, (and getting better and better!) and many many thanks for it!
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Old 10-02-2014, 11:15 AM
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BOS needs 10 years development yet,
unfortunately the WW2 flight sim market is smaller than it was 15 years ago.

It will be painfully slow before its anywhere near the theater coverage IL2 1946 has.
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Old 10-02-2014, 02:51 PM
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unfortunately the WW2 flight sim market is smaller than it was 15 years ago.
I'm not convinced this is true, there are loads of "arcade" WW2 flight sims on Amazon.co.uk, they wouldn't be there if they didn't sell.
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Old 10-02-2014, 04:00 PM
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Flight sim is the key word.

Arcade games are pick up put down items for gamers.

If you want a serious Sim as BoS is you need a different client from a gamer to get the cash in.
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Old 10-03-2014, 12:03 AM
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If you want a serious Sim as BoS is you need a different client from a gamer to get the cash in.
BoS might survive and thrive if it uses the RoF business model where you can pay for additional content and upgrades. That helps to attract the Flight Sim crowd, who think nothing of spending $5-20 a pop to buy spiffy new content and provides continuous cash for development rather than the boom and bust cycle of introducing stand alone add-on games.

There's also something to be said for the War Thunder or World of Tanks model, where you can pay to upgrade your airplane's weapons and loadouts. That is, everyone might get to fly the basic model P-51D, but if you want certain loadouts, like rockets, or rarities like 20mm cannons, then you have to pay extra.
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Old 10-03-2014, 02:20 PM
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Flight sim is the key word.
Agreed on that.
Another key word is “consensus”. As any thread can prove, and this one is no exception, general consensus simply doesn’t exist. I would love to be proved wrong, but I can’t believe that people with so different quality standards (and sometimes correctness standard) would unite in a great goodwill project to expand Il2. Besides different standards, there are different goals. Should the ultimate goal of this “Great Il2” be all missing theatres of WWII? Korean War? Spanish Civil War? And what about priorities? Which theatre comes first? Which planes, maps, features?

Any complex project requires someone who makes decisions. As I see it, TD is the only group that can guarantee this decisional level. Perhaps, the thread title should be more fittingly changed to: “Modders should unite under TD control”. I would love to see this happening, but I’m not holding my breath.
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