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Old 11-26-2008, 11:50 PM
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I still cannot figure how and why ai pick up targets, choosing it sometimes so mindless.
Btw my example with knight really happen so if someone say that ai is good i will laugh at him.

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You are mistaken, ai do not think at all choosing spells otherwise fighting with this shaman with 50 intellect would be one hell of battle.

Some one who say that ai is not pathetic should go play homm3 try ai in this 10 years old game and then come back.

Simply they didn't put too much effort into ai, what is a big shame because it is single player only game.

Pygmy one of the best spells? Oo There is tons of better spells than pygmy even slow is better (for no range ofc).

Lets take facts straight ai do not aim for stack that he can kill, he can attack full hp evil beholder for 23 damage when near him is archmage with 15 hp left.

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Old 11-26-2008, 11:52 PM
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You can always go and rewrite the AI if you think you can write better procedures.

(and no, this is no a "why don't you try it" remark, just a fact)
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Old 11-27-2008, 12:06 AM
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Hmm... no one paid me to do it while i paid for a game. Conclusion?

No offence but it's is their job not my. It not like this game cost 5$.
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Actually, that's not true. I'm pretty sure you'd ignore all reasonable arguments in favor of telling people how awesome HoMM 3 is and how dump KB is.
That is not true. It is fact that homm3 has better ai and homm4, and homm5, disciples 2, age of wonders, fallout 2 i don't remember any more games with turn based combat :/
I am watching carefully ai while playing kb:l (i don't think there is any difference in difficult level) and i described few examples even. Today i conquer for example ork's embasy and ork you fight there was using magic halabard (155 damage) every turn, he dry out of mana very fast, why he was using it dunno (only one spell in the poll?).

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Old 11-27-2008, 12:12 AM
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That's true but I didn't see "Amazing AI" anywhere in the advertisement either.
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Old 11-27-2008, 02:44 AM
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No, the A.I. isn't perfect and does have several flaws.

That being said, it still is generally quite competent and could be a whole lot worse.
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Old 11-27-2008, 02:28 PM
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Basicly to make the job easier the devs usually make combos (in every combat game) so the AI tries to find a known pattern at the battlefied and this triggers the respective combos.
So far the combo the AI likes most is to cast "sleep" on the archers and to hit them ASAP with their ranged attack
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Old 11-27-2008, 02:50 PM
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Well - AI units use mostly all of their skills - and that is better than many other games (other games had problems using "wait" or abilities/ spells...)

Developers are well aware of the AI level of their game - that is why your enemies have much more units than you do.... would be AI brilliant as you would like it to be - you would never win battles like "fighting your own double army" etc.

So actualy it is what I like so much on this type of single player games - players skills improve but AI skills do not - so longer you play, better tactics you can prepare - so you can demolish and clear nearly any battlefield you like and enjoy it as well...
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Old 11-27-2008, 12:03 AM
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That's not what I said. The enemy heroes generally have a limited spell selection, like 3-5 spells at their disposal. Sometimes they have NO direct damage spells, so when you say there are tons of better spells than Pygmy you are right, but the HERO DOES NOT HAVE THEM. If the hero casts Pygmy, it's because it is the best spell that the hero has at that particular moment. Some heroes just have awful spells which is a design decision and not a flaw of the AI.

For the few heroes that have Ice Snake, Fire Rain, and Geyser, they use it every round until they run out of mana. For the heroes with Fireball sometimes they don't use it because it will only do 700 damage, while a spell like Pygmy will prevent 1000+ damage. If those were the only two spells you had, you'd do the same thing.

Actually, that's not true. I'm pretty sure you'd ignore all reasonable arguments in favor of telling people how awesome HoMM 3 is and how dump KB is.
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