Mixture control Spit?

Artist · #1 05-09-2013, 06:03 PM

If you are on the ground and your throttle is closed (fully back) the mixture is always on rich (fully back, too). You only can set the mixture to lean (fully forward) when the throttle lever is beyond a certain point toward forward. Test it (without engine running): Thottle full open (fully forward), mixture lean (fully forward). Slowly close throttle and you can see the mixture lever snap backwards at a certain point of the throttle lever movement...

...and no key, no mouse, no force, and no goddess will make it go forward again as long as the throttle is not moved forward first. Not a bug, by the way.

Artist

DoolittleRaider · #2 05-09-2013, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Artist

If you are on the ground and your throttle is closed (fully back) the mixture is always on rich (fully back, too). You only can set the mixture to lean (fully forward) when the throttle lever is beyond a certain point toward forward. Test it (without engine running): Thottle full open (fully forward), mixture lean (fully forward). Slowly close throttle and you can see the mixture lever snap backwards at a certain point of the throttle lever movement...

...and no key, no mouse, no force, and no goddess will make it go forward again as long as the throttle is not moved forward first. Not a bug, by the way.

Artist

Thanks. Your resposne and a few posts i finally discovered at ATAG forums about the Mixture issue (originally an issue that was fixed). I see now how the Mixture and Throttle functions are related to each other. Thanks again.

Ignore my last post which passed yours mid-way across the internet.

DoolittleRaider · #3 05-09-2013, 08:28 PM

Hmmmm...

Something is still not quite right.

In the INFO window for engine status, whether I have selected analog (the vertical graph-bars) or digital Letters and percentages, it shows RICH (100%) when the Mixture lever is fully forward, not fully back.

I assume these two Spit tutorials below are outdated...since they show full movement of the Mixture control-lever regardless of position of the throttle. I assume a patch (TF MOD??) 'fixed' that feature in late 2012?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH6FK4vs6ZA

http://www.youtube.com/embed/t6OJkp2...d=1&autoplay=1

Still, only when I put the mixture control lever fully forward does the Info window show 100% [Rich]

What am I missing here?

Artist · #4 05-09-2013, 08:43 PM

According to the bugtracker at tfbt.nuvturais.de the mixture lever position was wrongly reversed until the very last patch from 1C, which fixed that issue (before Team Fusion took over). Possibly the info-window output is still reversed...

There's a strange thing with me, when I start my Spit: The mixture will be initially (wrongly, and not according to the visible lever position, which is backward = rich) lean - until I once pressed the lean-key first and then the rich-key. After that, everything is fine and I can ignite the engine.

Got used to it.

Artist

DoolittleRaider · #5 05-09-2013, 10:02 PM

Still very confusing to me...Here's what I see.

I think the lever fully back is giving me Rich, based on performance...Even though the Info Window says it is 0% [Lean] I can't tell for sure yet...

DoolittleRaider · #6 05-09-2013, 10:24 PM

Disregard all my posts please...

I found the answer:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foul Ole Ron

I don't use the info window myself but when you spawn in the aircraft you're set on full rich. To go to lean you have to push the throttle forward about 50-60% and then push the mixture to lean. If you throttle back at all it'll automatically flip the mixture back to rich as you should be using rich at lower engine power. You don't really need to worry about mixture unless you're planning to fly for a couple of hours. You'll spawn in the aircraft with the setting where you need it to be.

and

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATAG_Snapper

In a nutshell, in all models of Spitfires and Hurricanes, leave the lever pulled all the way back towards you and leave it there. This is Auto Rich. The correct fuel/air mixture is automatically fed to the engine for all engine settings, all altitudes, all combat maneuvres. This is authentic for all 1940-era Spits and Hurries.
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.... Too many other things to fiddle with by way of CEM, but mixture control thankfully isn't one of 'em.