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View Poll Results: Which of four GA airplanes were in your opinion more effective? Whats your basis?
Il-2 14 58.33%
Ju-87 2 8.33%
Fw-190 8 33.33%
Any soviet fighter 1 4.17%
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Old 09-20-2008, 11:12 AM
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Wasn't The 190 the official successor of the stuka ?
iirc i think the FW-190 was specifically developed as a high/med altitude fighter with additional bomber interceptor functions.

when the 190 was first released it was significantly superior to the then existing spitfires models as a single seat fighter , and it took the brits 6 to 9 months to catchup by further evolving the spitfire.

when both 109's and 190's would combine to intercept allied bomber formations, the 190's would mainly attack the bombers themselves, while the 109's would try and deal with the fighter escorts.

whatever function the 190 did in ground attack function, it was mostly as an afterthought because the plane was fairly sturdy.

others here might have more detail on its role, but thats how i understood it.
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Old 09-20-2008, 01:05 PM
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...while good fighter bombers can be used in almost any role where they are currently needed most. You can achieve more with less planes, concentrate production and supply chain on less different types. A more efficient contribution to the war effort.
I disagree with that idea, it's an accountant's view, but if you don't have considerable air superiority, it means making targets out of otherwise servicable fighters.
Especially if you don't have considerable air superiority fighter bombers are superior to specialized ground attack aircraft. A Ju-87 or Il-2 is just an easy target for enemy fighters, with or without bombs. The Fw-190 can still defend itself once the pilot drops his bombload, at least a fighter's higher speed gives him a better chance to escape if attacked. And it can still be used as a fighter if necessary. During the late Crimean campaign Fw-190 pilots from the ground attack wing SG-2 claimed more than 200 soviet aircraft shot down.
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Old 09-20-2008, 03:43 PM
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iirc i think the FW-190 was specifically developed as a high/med altitude fighter with additional bomber interceptor functions.

when the 190 was first released it was significantly superior to the then existing spitfires models as a single seat fighter , and it took the brits 6 to 9 months to catchup by further evolving the spitfire.

when both 109's and 190's would combine to intercept allied bomber formations, the 190's would mainly attack the bombers themselves, while the 109's would try and deal with the fighter escorts.

whatever function the 190 did in ground attack function, it was mostly as an afterthought because the plane was fairly sturdy.

others here might have more detail on its role, but thats how i understood it.
I agree, but the question concerns aircrafts that have been intensively used as GA aircraft, not only aircraft which have been built specifically for this purpose.
So I would keep Fw-190 and soviet fighters in the list.
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